Honestly, I see no difference between an ADN or ASN and a BSN. I do not think going for my Bachelors will improve my nursing judgment nor will It add to my science or medical knowledge. I think a bachelor degree in nursing can improve managerial skills and give me theories that are absolutely ridiculous.
Today, I walked into a home care agency for employment. The recruiter told me she could not hire me because I did not hold a bachelor degree and it would be illegal for me to work in home care without one. I do not know what that was about, but I work in home care and that is not true.
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My #1 BURNING question to you is what do you think about the whole Associate vs Bachelor Degree in Nursing controversy? In actual clinical/ theoretical practice, is one better than the other?
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Today's incident prompted me to think: what if I simply lied about having a bachelor's degree? I mean they don't really check do they?
Anyway, just wanted to say the job market in NYC isn't too bad. many agencies and small home care companies are willing to take new grads with no experience. although the agencies like to give undesirable positions psych and school nurses, it's still an opportunity.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Is anyone else seeing quoted responses out of order from the posts? Is AN being "buggy" right now
I hope it's the software, 'cause otherwise it's the people around here that seem sorta buggy in the last couple of days. Maybe it's April Fools. I don't mean that personally against anyone who might read this!
I am so sad for you, you truly believe lying won't end in losing your license? People lose their licenses for less then fraud. Maybe call your BON and ask them. I am sure they will be happy to inform you that you are incorrect and probably should stray away from committing such acts of fraud while holding your RN license.
There are hundreds of topics open just like this one. A BSN nurse went to school for twice a long as an ADN nurse-- you can't act like it's all for nothing. I've seen fantastic ADNs and horrible BSNs, but to write off that extra education is disrespectful.
Also, with regards to lying, the truth always comes out in the end, and it will end with you likely getting fired from your job.
I agree with the above poster. I went to school and got my BSN. Usually universities have two years of clinical, well my school did three years. That in itself is a major difference between ADN and BSN is the experience you get in school. Sure going to school for two years and being prepared enough to take your boards and become a nurse would be great, but I'm glad I spent five years of my life going for my BSN (went to community college for two years and then transferred to my nursing school). I got everything done at once and don't need to further my education in the future for anyone but myself, or until they require a masters haha There are also tons of nursing skills that only BSN prepared nurses can do because they received the extra education/experience for it.
Every job I apply for now states that any ADN nurses must be enrolled in a BSN program within 2-3 years of hire, or some only specify BSN nurses only. Lots of healthcare professions are now requiring more education or eventually are going to, its inevitable and we can't really do anything about it.
As far as lying about your degree type, whether you were serious or not, hiring managers are going to check. They aren't just going to take your word for it. I've had to submit my transcripts to a few job applications.
I also don't feel it's right to list credentials after your name that aren't awarded to you yet. When I was in nursing school, I didn't call myself a BSN grad because I hadn't graduated. Once I graduated I didn't call myself a BSN, RN because I hadn't taken the nclex yet. Just because you're enrolled in a RN-BSN program, doesn't mean you're a BSN prepared nurse yet.
First, regarding the title of your post. You are not, have not, and will not be prompted to lie. You choose to lie, or you choose the truth. But not prompted to lie.
#1: It doesn't matter what I or anyone else think. What matters is the employer's preference. One could say the ADN is just fine all day long, but that won't help him get a job if the employer is requiring a BSN
#2: Say you say on your app that you currently hold a BSN. They will either check or they won't. (And by that, I mean of course they check. Do you honestly think they do no due diligence on their candidates??) But say they do. They will revoke any job offer or terminate you. If they terminate you, which would happen if you've already started, good luck trying to get a new job. Managers talk. You will have earned a reputation of being one who lies on applications. You *could* lie about having ever been terminated...but as any child knows, repeated lies snowball. Also, the BSN is likely earning a degree differential--being paid more per hour than the ADN RN. If you're working and lied to get that extra money, that is called fraud. It's a crime.
Don't even think about it. You'll be out of a job, possibly out of a license, and will have to settle for Ramen noodles for breakfast. You won't be able to afford Kit-Kats.
A background check requires you to list the institutions your degree was granted from. Many times HR has third parties verify the source through a degree clearinghouse. All of my employers did this through hire right (a background check company). My job requires a BSN and thus it was verified.
I have never been asked for anything but my license and my BON does not list the info. To my knowledge no employer has ever checked but why in the world risk it ? Just saying...
haha There are also tons of nursing skills that only BSN prepared nurses can do because they received the extra education/experience for it. 
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California Dept of health regulations require BSN + certificate to work as public health nurse.