LIAR: ADN RN prompted to lie about holding a BSN... is it passable?

[kitkats4breakfs]

Honestly, I see no difference between an ADN or ASN and a BSN. I do not think going for my Bachelors will improve my nursing judgment nor will It add to my science or medical knowledge. I think a bachelor degree in nursing can improve managerial skills and give me theories that are absolutely ridiculous.

Today, I walked into a home care agency for employment. The recruiter told me she could not hire me because I did not hold a bachelor degree and it would be illegal for me to work in home care without one. I do not know what that was about, but I work in home care and that is not true.

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My #1 BURNING question to you is what do you think about the whole Associate vs Bachelor Degree in Nursing controversy? In actual clinical/ theoretical practice, is one better than the other?

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Today's incident prompted me to think: what if I simply lied about having a bachelor's degree? I mean they don't really check do they?

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Anyway, just wanted to say the job market in NYC isn't too bad. many agencies and small home care companies are willing to take new grads with no experience. although the agencies like to give undesirable positions psych and school nurses, it's still an opportunity.

[scaredsilly, BSN, RN]

Wasn't there research done on this? I believe nurses who were at the BSN level performed safer care than nurses at the ADN level. I'll try to find some articles on it.

That's possible, I really don't know the answer. I passed NCLEX last June, and am 7 months into my first job, so my observances are probably not as important as more seasoned nurses. I kind of think experience has a lot to do with I though. A nurse who has been doing this for many years with an ASN is a far better (and safer) nurse than a newbie like me and I for one am grateful I have them to learn from!

[canigraduate]

Still in denial.

Most of the jobs I have had, nursing or not, perform, at the least, a rudimentary background check and credit check.

The only ones that didn't do this also employed either undocumented foreigners or employees that were paid under the table.

Any assumption that credentials aren't checked in this day and age is naive at best and idiotic at worst. Especially in the healthcare arena, where facilities are so vulnerable to lawsuits.

I just can't get it through my head that anyone could believe that such dishonesty would go unnoticed, much less unpunished.

[danceyrun]

Although I am fully cognizant this is not another ASN versus BSN debate, I feel compelled to point out that associate degree nurses have the exact same scope of practice as baccalaureate degree nurses.

So tell me about the 'tons' of nursing skills that only BSN-prepared RNs can perform. I personally made the transition from ASN to BSN, and my scope of practice has remained unchanged. I am really dying to know about the nursing skills I can now perform due to conferral of a baccalaureate degree in nursing.

This. I would have no idea who on my unit holds an ADN vs. BSN unless I asked. Also, in my area the community colleges get way more clinical time than 4 year schools.

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

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