Coronavirus Second Wave?

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The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday, with 29 communities in the sprawling Chinese capital back on lockdown.

Yet again, a coronavirus outbreak in China is linked to a food market ...

This coronavirus resurgence and reaction is worryingly reminiscent of the unprecedented lockdown of Wuhan and the surrounding regions in central China that began in January.

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Beyond Beijing, this new surge is not Asia's only flare-up: Japan's capital city of Tokyo has reported more than 20 new cases havens here day over the past six days.

The surges in two of Asia's biggest capitals serve as a clear warning to America and all other countries: reopening risks reinfection.

Read in its entirety: China races to contain a second wave of coronavirus cases in Beijing

Do you think this will become increasingly problematic?

With the re-opening of the U.S., are we facing a second wave?

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1 hour ago by CommunityRNBSN, BSN, RN

Developed, produced, and administered to 400 million people. That is a staggering task. How long did it take after a polio vaccine was developed, before polio was brought under control? Decades. That is how long it took. The people who are saying “We will have a vaccine in March and then everything will be fine!” are delusional.

I pray and hope it is sooner. In addition to the work being done by many knowledgeable scientists it would take amazing luck. Still I hope.

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Bear in mind that if your under age 65 the odds of you dying from Corona are only marginally higher than you dying in a car accident driving to work, since the median age of Covid death is 80.

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About 80% of Americans who have died of Covid-19 are older than 65, and the median age is 80. A review by Stanford medical professor John Ioannidis last month found that individuals under age 65 accounted for 4.8% to 9.3% of all Covid-19 deaths in 10 European countries and 7.8% to 23.9% in 12 U.S. locations.

For most people under the age of 65, the study found, the risk of dying from Covid-19 isn’t much higher than from getting in a car accident driving to work.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covid-age-penalty-11592003287?mod=opinion_major_pos1

The people who are most likely to die of this aren't even in the workforce because of old age, anyway. It's foolish to not reopen up the businesses. Fauci and his ilk should be telling senior citizens alone to quarantine, if anything, because this is clearly not a young person's disease.

On 6/17/2020 at 1:37 PM, GrumpyRN said:

Is that the same flu that killed 50 million people in 1918?

Which by the way started in Kansas.

did it?

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On 6/19/2020 at 5:23 AM, the VEGAN Professor said:

did it?

Did it what?

Start in Kansas or kill 50 million?

The answer is yes to both.

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2 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Bear in mind that if your under age 65 the odds of you dying from Corona are only marginally higher than you dying in a car accident driving to work, since the median age of Covid death is 80.

Yes, but what are the long term effects? One of our docs who was infected is in his 40s, spent 6 days on a vent, three weeks in the hospital (discharged 3 weeks ago), is on long term steroid therapy because of it, requires oxygen, and most likely will be unable to return to his job.

There’s a story and I believe it was posted in a thread here about a younger patient who required a lung transplant, and the link included pictures of what her lungs looked like. This is a life altering disease, whether one survives or not.

Edit: found the story.
Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others

Photo shared in the article:

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Did we ever finish the first wave?

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5 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

Did we ever finish the first wave?

Good question, @NurseBlaq.

Some experts view this as still in the 1st wave.

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36 minutes ago, Rose_Queen said:

Yes, but what are the long term effects?

Absolutely a valid point. But the costs of eternal quarantine for everyone outweigh the risks to a definite minority.

On 6/18/2020 at 7:42 AM, A Hit With The Ladies said:

No more compromises. These sacrifices are all in vain. The Coronavirus won't be defeated because a new wave would simply restart. Everyone is sick and tired of hearing about the Corona day in and day out. Time to move on with our lives!

The hilarious irony is that there is a very straightforward compromise--mandated universal masking. If everybody had to wear a mask in shared public spaces (minus a few exceptions), it would protect everybody and benefit the economy by decreasing the need for shut-downs and forced social distancing.

I already know from your prior posts that you think universal masking is fascist (please, spare me the petulant tirade ?), but it's no more "fascist" than the government forcing everybody to wear pants in public. In fact, I'd argue that 'public decency' laws are even more "fascist" than universal masking, since refusal to wear a mask endangers people's health, whereas a person being nude in public only serves to offend people (not literally kill them).

I wonder, if you had to choose between wearing a mask and saving the economy, which hill would you die on?

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1 minute ago, adventure_rn said:

The hilarious irony is that there is a very straightforward compromise--mandated universal masking. If everybody had to wear a mask in shared public spaces (minus a few exceptions), it would protect everybody and benefit the economy by decreasing the need for shut-downs and forced social distancing.

I already know from your prior posts that you think universal masking is fascist (please, spare me the petulant tirade ?), but it's no more "fascist" than the government forcing everybody to wear pants in public. In fact, I'd argue that 'public decency' laws are even more "fascist" than universal masking, since refusal to wear a mask endangers people's health, whereas a person being nude in public only serves to offend people (not literally kill them).

I wonder, if you had to choose between wearing a mask and saving the economy, which hill would you die on?

I'm done listening to the CDC. They say "no masks!" then "okay masks" then advocate fining people for not wearing masks. This circus has gone on too long. It's time to go back to normal (pre-Corona) lives. BTW, we have always worn pants. Masks, not so much. This is NOT going to turn into a permanent masking thing because the government eventually turns a mere suggestion into a diktat. If you're still scared of the Coronavirus go quarantine your own self and leave the masses alone. The alarmism has abated and it's quite frankly annoying to hear about "do this, don't do that!" all the time about the Corona.

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2 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

I'm done listening to the CDC. They say "no masks!" then "okay masks" then advocate fining people for not wearing masks. This circus has gone on too long. It's time to go back to normal (pre-Corona) lives. BTW, we have always worn pants. Masks, not so much. This is NOT going to turn into a permanent masking thing because the government eventually turns a mere suggestion into a diktat. If you're still scared of the Coronavirus go quarantine your own self and leave the masses alone. The alarmism has abated and it's quite frankly annoying to hear about "do this, don't do that!" all the time about the Corona.

LOL

Your brand of alarmism hasn't abated in the least...it's gotten more desperate sounding as the economic recession persists even though your wishes to have businesses opened have come true. The persistent use of hyperbole to make the alarm sound less fearful and callous is annoying.

2 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

I'm done listening to the CDC. They say "no masks!" then "okay masks" then advocate fining people for not wearing masks. This circus has gone on too long. It's time to go back to normal (pre-Corona) lives. BTW, we have always worn pants. Masks, not so much. This is NOT going to turn into a permanent masking thing because the government eventually turns a mere suggestion into a diktat. If you're still scared of the Coronavirus go quarantine your own self and leave the masses alone. The alarmism has abated and it's quite frankly annoying to hear about "do this, don't do that!" all the time about the Corona.

You didn't answer the question.

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