I'm surprised there has been no mention of the Stanford rape trial and sentence on all nurses. I'm opening up the discussion as I feel it pertains to us in many ways. One as people who may have been victims or know others who have been victims of sexual violence and two as nurses that have taken care of others in this situation, whether directly in ER or a patient suffering from PTSD with other health problems as well.
I applaud the survivor's bravery and her impact statement that has gone public. I hope this will comfort other survivors, but even more I hope this will discourage rape in general. Campus rapes are common and rapes at frats are in the news frequently. Once again a college athlete got off with just a slap on the wrist, although I don't think he counted on all the negative publicity this case has garnered.
What disturbs me the most is the letters of the parents to the judge. The father's don't punish him for 20 minutes of action. Then the mother's letter, who by the way is a nurse for gynecological surgeries and in the past as a pediatric nurse, who had not one iota of empathy for the victim. Her letter simply astonished me. I can't believe as a woman, as a nurse, as a mother of a daughter she had no empathy for the victim! This troubles me the most! I imagine in her years as a nurse she must have taken care of a rape victim and her total lack of empathy for the victim disturbs me greatly!
Maybe they did do some of the things you said. So did they deserve to be raped?
You are the one suggesting, repeatedly, that women who engage in those activities are inviting rape to some degree and may not be entirely blameless (or that sexual assault under those circumstances might not really be "rape") ... What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, as they say.
They wouldn't be raped in jail if they weren't there, would they? No double standard on this.
I seriously feel dirty reading everything you have to say because you honestly think you are a compassionate person - but you are really quite vile and judgmental.
Maybe you can tell me what reasonable precautions against rape include, since intoxication isn't one and visually stimulating men isn't one.
Men don't rape women because they have been visually stimulated. They rape because they are angry, or hate women (or men) and want to hurt them, because they feel powerless and want to exert power over another person, because they enjoy humiliating others, etc. It is NOT because THEY ARE TURNED ON.
You have a real problem understanding that rape is not about sex or attraction.
I don't want to hurt anyone, especially those already in pain.
Maybe you can tell me what reasonable precautions against rape include, since intoxication isn't one and visually stimulating men isn't one. And I am sincerely wanting to know what your thinking is on this because I apparently don't know and it is important, so please tell me.
You have been told over and over it is not up to the victim to avoid being victimized. No one is going to tell you what a women should do to avoid being raped, because there is nothing they can do. People are raped in all different situations, in different clothes, in different places, alone, with others, drunk , sober, young or old. You just choose to believe that women somehow bring being raped upon themselves. They don't! End of story.
You have been told over and over it is not up to the victim to avoid being victimized. No one is going to tell you what a women should do to avoid being raped, because there is nothing they can do. People are raped in all different situations, in different clothes, in different places, alone, with others, drunk , sober, young or old. You just choose to believe that women somehow bring being raped upon themselves. They don't! End of story.
He really seems like a troll. When was his account created?
it's probably against TOS to knock someone's religion. Even mine.
You have no way to know my heart, therefore no basis upon which to label me a FAKE Christian and I have never thumped any Bibles.
Troll be quiet and be gone. You're annoying and no one agrees with you. You are a fake Christian who have the nerve to thump your damn bible. If this is how you really think, you are surely a vile loser!
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I don't want to hurt anyone, especially those already in pain.
Maybe you can tell me what reasonable precautions against rape include, since intoxication isn't one and visually stimulating men isn't one. And I am sincerely wanting to know what your thinking is on this because I apparently don't know and it is important, so please tell me.
A reasonable precaution against rape would be imposing a sundown curfew on all MEN. They are the ones causing the problem.
I'm seriously beginning to question if Kooky is so concerned about men at risk of being visually stimulated because he is somehow able to relate to or identify with needing to keep the visual stimulation to a minimum, like he can relate to a lack of impulse control himself.
Kooky Korky, BSN, RN
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it's probably against TOS to knock someone's religion. Even mine.
You have no way to know my heart, therefore no basis upon which to label me a FAKE Christian and I have never thumped any Bibles.