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Very weird post. Students (who apparently recognize everyone’s cars) drive by a strip joint, see his car, and rather than consider the possibility that he is a patron of the club, automatically assume he is a dancer? This OP doesn’t ring true to me. Something is off.

Eating my Chinese food for lunch, that typo cracked me up. Add forging nurses' signatures to the illegal acts (which I guess would fall under 'falsifying charts,' but since it drags an additional person into the deception, seems even worse).

The nurse's time IS more important than the student's in that moment. She is legally responsible for x number of patients. The student is there to learn but has nowhere near the amount of work to get done and is not the one at the end of the day who bears the larger responsibility and liability. If the student's tardiness causes them to miss report, then they need to get into the chart and find out for themselves what is going on with their patient, or get their clinical instructor (you know, the one who is actually paid to teach them and is responsible for their learning experience) to go over the relevant information, not let their own EGO dictate that the nurse must drop what they are doing and report information that was available to the student during the SCHEDULED report time. One of the reasons clinical instructors are so strict about student tardiness is that every student's one "life happens" multiplied by the number of students in the group is no longer just a one off. They've heard every excuse in the book, btw, and not all of them are legit. I've seen a lot of your posts and many of them have the same theme: "I'M PAYING TUITION, so I have the right." Staff nurses aren't paid by you or the educational institution. Many of them are given no choice to take a student, and most are not paid by their facility. Students often think their presence is a help to the nurse, but that's rarely to never the case. Interesting how many of the same students come back to AN once they are nurses and say "I'm kind of embarrassed about my attitude. I had no idea how much work it is to take on a student on top of all of my other responsibilities." Be on time or get written up. It's not like she's thrown into jail or sued for damages. It's a warning. And earned. We all had to do the same when we were nursing students, so we know what is was like. Nursing students, on the other hand, have not been nurses.

She didn't say she was perfect. She said she is always on time.

No, not once, ever, for clinical or in a professional setting where a coworker would be inconvenienced by me. Because I had tremendous respect for the fact that the nurse has worked all night and shouldn't have to pay the price for my issues (carpooling-not an emergency). And if by some chance I had been late for clinical, I wouldn't be giving the nurse any attitude. It's ego, you're correct. Ego on the part of the person who's late and has the attitude that because they are paying tuition to Tail Gate U, a nurse who has no affiliation whatsoever with that institution should be required to cater to an attitude of entitlement.

I didn't show with my second child until about 27-28 weeks. I see down sides to informing too early. I'd give myself plenty of time to make myself indispensable to the unit before I said anything.

It's against the law to consider pregnancy in any personnel decisions. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time. I don't see why you should have to tell anyone if you don't want to.

This is a timely article for me. My Dad was visiting me for Thanksgiving this year and had a severe stroke. He has been on Coumadin for 25 years, and was very compliant with his regime. His INR was therapeutic, yet he still developed an enormous blood clot in his carotid artery. Because of his INR, he was not eligible for TPA; he had to be care flighted to a facility that could do a thrombectomy. We lost valuable time for that transfer. Dad is progressing in his recovery, but will probably not ever be completely back to normal. One of the cardiologists mentioned that we might want to check out this procedure down the line. I had not yet taken the time to fully research this procedure. Thanks for posting.

She said she was going to fire you if you called in again. You called in again. And you were surprised she fired you. If you are getting lots of interviews but no offers, you may need to consider that the potential employers are calling your former supervisor and getting the story on your absenteeism. This kind of stuff can follow you around. It's a myth that employers can't give bad references. As long as they are telling the truth, they can go into detail about your performance history.

Who was forging the nurses' signatures?

I wish every unit had my nurse manager (she's retired now) from my old ICU unit. She was exacting-you better know your stuff and practice at a high level. But respected us-self schedule and don't make me have to get involved or you might not like the schedule. She went to battle for us vs. no matter who or what position they held if we were in the right and she never lost. I saw her put a top jerk surgeon in his place when he abused one of our nurses-she had him groveling and apologizing within a couple of minutes. She jumped into patient care if we were sinking in order to help and in order to keep her skills up. She came in for an entire shift occasionally if she couldn't get an agency nurse in. She NEVER asked us to go over the established ICU and stepdown accepted ratios. Not once ever. She provided an environment that made you want to be the best nurse ever, not just because the patients deserved it, but because you didn't want to let her down. Docs fought to get their patients in our unit because they knew about that culture of excellence and the positive outcomes that kind of environment produces. Medication errors were dealt with not punitively, but with an eye to figuring out what factors contributed to it. I wish there were a million of her out there...

Wow, what did you do to piss off three separate people that would inspire them to risk their own standing in the program in order to lie about you and get you kicked out of school???? Are they that vindictive or do you think this is a case of genuine mistaken identity? Do you have that every man/woman look about you? Good luck, hope it works out. ETA: I just realized you said "three individuals," not three students. In any case, that's a bizarre accusation. Hope you can succeed in your appeal.

Instructors have heard every excuse in the book for tardiness or absenteeism, most of them honest and sincere, but also some complete and total BS. While they might seem really severe, I think most instructors do want their students to succeed, so they have to come off pretty serious about it so that there is no chance of it becoming a pattern. Sounds like this is a one-off and not a big deal in the big picture.

So I was off line living my life and came back this morning to read the latest posts, and it seems like the thread is taking a negative turn. I feel like reasonable people can disagree, but there are some who seem to feel that there is only one legitimate point of view and just cannot conceive of how other thoughtful intelligent people might view it differently (and so they must not be thoughtful or intelligent). So then we get snark, and after that, sarcasm for those who don't toe the line of our thinking, then insults about reading comprehension or ability to "get it," and then next we will likely get personal insults and ad hominem attacks....and so on. This is what often happens after 20 pages of the same people repeating themselves over and over, and it's not becoming of us. It might not be a bad idea to do a self imposed time out before terms of service get shredded to a pulp and the mods do it for us.

I've addressed the deterrence factor a couple of times already. Seriously have to go. I always feel it's rude not to respond to people's posts when they quote me, but at some point I have to call it quits. Happy debating everyone.