allnurses mentioned in AJN and it ain't flattering

[actioncat]

There was a mention of the lethal injection discussion in AJN. It was kind of an embarrassment; they discussed a posting where a few individuals expressed a great desire to take part in lethal injections. Too bad.

ADMIN NOTE: Here is the link to the AJN article for those of you interested in reading it:

http://cms.nursingcenter.com/dev/library/JournalArticle.asp?Article_ID=573335 Thanks - Brian

[UM Review RN, ASN, RN]

Still, there is a difference between being pro death penalty and becoming gleeful at the prospect of taking part in an execution.

I objected to the use of that thread in a serious article because I thought the entire thread was done in jest.

[Brian, ASN, RN]

Hi everyone, thanks for posting this, I was not aware that allnurses.com was mentioned in the article.

allnurses.com has been mentioned in several articles, a CNN artlicle on the nursing shortage, RN magazine called allnurses.com a supersite, been a handful of others nursing/medical publications, and now AJN. It says a lot to have companies like these using allnurses.com as a source for their content, regardless of how flattering the content is or isn't, or if is taken out of context or not.

It just goes to show how much of an impact this site has on the nursing sector. We're being watched

Thanks to all

[leslie :-D]

I agree. The "credentials" of those who responded to that thread are completely lacking. Nor did it sound like a very serious nursing discussion to me, more like a venting discussion. (Similar to the "Who would you Taser?" thread.)

AJN should not have allowed this casually-spoken, flip thread to be used in a serious discussion about lethal injection, that's all there is to it.

i agree. they certainly blew it out of context.

and when i read the 'infamous posts', you could tell that contextually they were being facetious, and certainly nothing credible.

i'm truly disappointed.

[ktwlpn, LPN]

Hi everyone, thanks for posting this, I was not aware that allnurses.com was mentioned in the article.

allnurses.com has been mentioned in several articles, a CNN artlicle on the nursing shortage, RN magazine called allnurses.com a supersite, been a handful of others nursing/medical publications, and now AJN. It says a lot to have companies like these using allnurses.com as a source for their content, regardless of how flattering the content is or isn't, or if is taken out of context or not.

It just goes to show how much of an impact this site has on the nursing sector. We're being watched

Thanks to all

So it is permissible for our comments to be quoted without our permission?

[ChrisA]

So it is permissible for our comments to be quoted without our permission?

It's a public forum, so yes, generally. If this encourages people to be more responsible with what they write, then I think that's probably commendable.

And, in another note, whether a nurse believes in the death penalty or not, it's still a violation of certain nursing codes of ethics. Is it not?

[Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN]

So it is permissible for our comments to be quoted without our permission?

I was wondering this too . . sort of a gray area . . . . this is a public BB but at the same time when you are quoting someone in an article or book seems like you should at least contact the person.

Sometimes it does freak me out a little to see how many "guests" are here . . .sometimes hundreds.

We can email threads to friends too by the way . . . there is an option available.

steph

[LPN1974, LPN]

So it is permissible for our comments to be quoted without our permission?

I would think so, if you posted it here in a public forum.

{But that's just MY opinion.}

Best thing is if a person had rather not be quoted, is to not say it.

They do have a "private message" feature here on this board.

Never know what :uhoh21: are watching/reading/spying.

[begalli]

So it is permissible for our comments to be quoted without our permission?

I would think that since this is a privately owned message board, Brian, the Administrator, would have to state somewhere in the Terms of Service (TOS) of this board that the posts are covered under copyright laws. Where the posts of individuals are actually copyrighted by the Administrators.

I don't think he can do that because the views and opinions of those who post here are not necessarily a reflection of the views and opinions of the message board administrators.

In the TOS that we all agree to when we sign up it says:

Please remember that we do not actively monitor the contents of posted messages and are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB or any entity associated with this BB.

You are part of a BB whose opinions are widely read by men and women considering nursing, nursing assistants, students and Nurses: RN's and LPN/LVN's from across the US and through out the world especially Australia, Canada, UK, and others. This website is one of the most highly respected within the nursing community and is listed as a resource in nursing publications and at other nursing related websites. We didn't get to that status without the professional and courteous contributions of our membership.

In short, the TOS says that while we must abide by the rules of this privately owned website, post your views and opinions at your own risk....the world is watching.

And, I think, this is the way a message board should be.

In my limited understanding of the laws of the internet, the AJN properly sourced this website. They may not have used very good judgement in the way they presented the material, but they did not do anything wrong, legally.

[KRVRN, BSN, RN]

I've always thought of AJN as a very respectable publication. To quote a joke into a serious journal article is showing poor form. It's my opinion that the quote was intended to be dry humor... The author probably wanted something catchy to end the article with. Lame, AJN. Lame.

[hoolahan, ASN, RN]

Ohh good grief, they took it WAY out of context IF they chose to use it to make a point. It is obvious NONE of the nurses there are FOR administering lethal injections, and yes, a few "off color" jokes were told. but the thread was closed very promptly (and it appears, appropriately, by the moderator). I can't see why they took this ONE thread and built an ARTICLE on that????

I agree Deb, blown totally out of proportion! I am not embarrased in any way by the mention. I don't think it was a poor reflection on allnurses.com or anyone who posts here. This IS America, we have freedom of speech, naturally not all the nurses posting here will be against the death penalty.

[geekgolightly, BSN, RN]

I've always thought of AJN as a very respectable publication. To quote a joke into a serious journal article is showing poor form. It's my opinion that the quote was intended to be dry humor... The author probably wanted something catchy to end the article with. Lame, AJN. Lame.

Which is why many large message boards who might be mentioned or quoted usually have a media statement including an email address to direct queries about quoting posts. This avoids misreading/misinterpreting of posts and ensures no bad press for the site.

[Blackcat99]

Yes What ever happened to freedom of speech??? Anyway, I think AJN is very jealous of allnurses.com because we get so many new members here everyday. I think the AJN magazine is dull and boring. I sent them a message and told them to stop hassling me to buy their crummy magazine. How dare they criticize allnurses.com!!! :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire