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RN, ADN being obsolete

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Sorry, I get recruited as a diploma RN, even at 69.5 years of age and 46.5 years of experience...... I have not applied for a nursing job....in geese a decade, guess it is the experience......

I have a feeling your area does not have 26 nursing schools in a 50 mile radius, churning out about 2,000 new grads each year...with the unemployment bureau actually paying for nursing school tuition when they already know your chances of finding work is about 1 in 200. Its actually absurd and borderline criminal to be churning out all these nurses when unmeployment in nursing is at about 50% here.

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I heard this nonsense when I was in nursing school and I granduated in 1975! Find a school that doesnt lie to your face to make more money.

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As people have pointed out, a BSN will give you an advantage. On the other hand, there are some rural long term care facilities where an LPN is the DON and they also work med-surge in rural areas too. And yet we were told years ago that LPNs would be gone very soon.

LPNs have been gone from hospitals in my area for a long time. Not even one of the places I've worked at will hire them.

In my state, an LPN could not be DON of any nursing facility that also employs RNs because the Nurse Practice Act is interpreted by the BON as not allowing any LPN to supervise the nursing practice of an RN.

LPNs are the backbone of LTCs and SNFs, however.

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The RN diploma no longer exists on several nations. So if you plan on working outside of the US, yo will require a degree.

Canada, the UK, Australia and New Zealand all have four year degrees as the entry point for RNs

The majority of Americans don't even own a passport (only 42% do according to a BBC article from January of this year) and even fewer actually leave the country even for vacation annually. Most certainly aren't thinking of moving abroad.

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I have a feeling your area does not have 26 nursing schools in a 50 mile radius, churning out about 2,000 new grads each year...with the unemployment bureau actually paying for nursing school tuition when they already know your chances of finding work is about 1 in 200. Its actually absurd and borderline criminal to be churning out all these nurses when unmeployment in nursing is at about 50% here.

No we only have 12 nursing schools....but what does that say for Memphis, Tm, Washington, DC, and Houston Texas... just saying...

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The majority of Americans don't even own a passport (only 42% do according to a BBC article from January of this year) and even fewer actually leave the country even for vacation annually. Most certainly aren't thinking of moving abroad.

Reading the International forum here can be an eye opener. No second language, no experience, but American ADNs and they want to work overseas. France, Italy, Scotland or Germany seem to be the most asked about destinations.

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I've been advocating for that for years. Why require an experienced ADN/Diploma nurse (who doesn't want to do management) get a BSN when it would be much more worthwhile to require them to get certification in their area of specialty instead?

Experience means higher salary. New grad means lower salary. Bean counters run the world.

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Reading the International forum here can be an eye opener. No second language, no experience, but American ADNs and they want to work overseas. France, Italy, Scotland or Germany seem to be the most asked about destinations.

There are a few delusional ones out there, no doubt.

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In Massachusetts you have to be an RN to be a DON or ADON of a SNF. And as far as not being able to transfer to acute care after working in a SNF...I say BS. We do IV push lasix, IV Inotropics, TPN, Traches, and large bore chest tubes in my building. I worked at a place on the South Coast where the hospital refused to have trache patients who needed suctioning on a med surg floor because the nurses were too busy. Our units average 4 trache patients and on the weekends, it's just the nurses.

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They can't even phase out LPNs, why would an ADN-RN be obsolete?

I think there is a miscommunication between you and your counselor.

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There are ADN nurses working in magnet hospitals.

Yep, the hospitals reimburse the RN to BSN up to a certain amount.

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Not true, I was adn working at a magnet hospital . Lpns and adns are not going anywhere any time soon especially with the current job market. Hospitals are struggling to keep experienced and highly educated staff at the bedside.

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