RN, ADN being obsolete

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I recently got in contact with a nursing school (ASA college) inquired regarding a RN program. i was informed by a counselor that they only offer the BSN being that the RN license is becoming obsolete and will be within the next 2 years. Has any nurses or medical professionals heard about this?

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
i was informed by a counselor that they only offer the BSN being that the RN license is becoming obsolete and will be within the next 2 years.

Yeah.

I heard 35 years ago, while in an LPN program, that LPNs were going to be obsolete also.

Go figure.

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Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.

I've been an RN since 1982. I went to a hospital based diploma program because I already had a bachelor's degree in something else. I have NEVER had a problem getting a job and I've been in management for the past 20 years. Not having a BSN has not impacted my career in the least. Now that I am usually the one hiring, if it's a choice between a new BSN and a new diploma grad, the diploma grad wins every time.

Yeah.

I heard 35 years ago, while in an LPN program, that LPNs were going to be obsolete also.

Go figure.

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My hole-in-the-wall hospital just laid off all LVNs and Psychiatric Techs with a few weeks notice. I hope they find other work fast. My nerves would be shot.

I even thought ...for just a moment ...that I should get my BSN. Then, I decided against it. I'm just too lazy.

Specializes in critical care, ER,ICU, CVSURG, CCU.
The RN diploma no longer exists on several nations. So if you plan on working outside of the US, yo will require a degree.

Canada, the UK, Australia and New Zealand all have four year degrees as the entry point for RNs

You are wrong....there are 12 or so, mostly in Pennsylvania area.....

The RN diploma no longer exists on several nations. So if you plan on working outside of the US, yo will require a degree.

Canada, the UK, Australia and New Zealand all have four year degrees as the entry point for RNs

You are wrong....there are 12 or so, mostly in Pennsylvania area.....

She said if you plan on working OUTSIDE of the US, you need a degree. I don't know if that is true or not, but your comment refers to US programs.

Specializes in critical care, ER,ICU, CVSURG, CCU.
I read about a lot about a widening gap of inequality in the USA.

I think the way the ADN plays in to this is that in areas that are not thriving economically, where the population is aging, young people move away and people with 4 year degrees are not that common are the places where an ADN will do fine.

....I disagree

As a diploma RN

I was Assist Head nurse at a major teaching hospital in Tenn.

I was also Supv in Er of nurse clinicians ( in NC)

assist HN CCU GWU Washington DC

Then Supervisor of ERpvt Hospital Wash.DC,

Then ER in Vah Houston, Also worked Texas Heart in Houston, CCU, Ccvicu, and HN on a CV, oncology floor....

Some pvt duty physicians office,

eR charge S E Tx...

dON in three different LTC/SNF.....

All on my measly diploma RN program.....

It is often geographic influenced.... but 5he geographic location has never held me back...

Best wishes

Specializes in critical care, ER,ICU, CVSURG, CCU.
I am going through this problem as a 2 year RN degree is being phased out everywhere, except for homecare. For 10 years there was work for the 2 year degree RN, but the last 8 years, almost nothing. I live in an area where there are way too many nursing schools churning out nurses at all levels, LPN, RN, BSN and MSN, practioner. ..and not enough jobs to supply the workforce. Consequently, you wind up with a couple hundred applicants for a handful of jobs. Do not even get me started on the way area employers have feasted upon the lopsided supply/ demand...to put it nicely, wound up walking out of an interview because I could cut the arrogance with a knife. Just like having too many burger joints in 2 square miles, there is no way to stay in business with supply and demand out of sync...but that does not stop all the bogus "10,000" sign on bonus job ads that are fake, and the continued false propoganda of a nursing shortage that never existed in the first place. OK, rant over, thank you for listening. I am now working nights at target, per diem homecare, and weekends on a farm ...so much for my 2nd career and all the money I spent for nothing.

Sorry, I get recruited as a diploma RN, even at 69.5 years of age and 46.5 years of experience...... I have not applied for a nursing job....in geese a decade, guess it is the experience......

As people have pointed out, a BSN will give you an advantage. On the other hand, there are some rural long term care facilities where an LPN is the DON and they also work med-surge in rural areas too. And yet we were told years ago that LPNs would be gone very soon.

Specializes in LTC.

This is definitely area-specific and I would advise looking at / listening to actual hospitals in your area, not anyone trying to sell you a program.

Our local hospital hires ADN all day long, and they've even dropped the requirement to get your BSN within 5 years. And they just became a magnet hospital ... so that's interesting.

An hour north of me, in a larger city, at least one of the hospitals is now even hiring LPN's. Heard this directly from the freshly-hired LPN who was caring for my father back in May.

Specializes in critical care, ER,ICU, CVSURG, CCU.
As a future new-grad, I think it depends upon where you want to work. The major hospitals in my city do not hire non-BSN RNs for bedside care. Some of the smaller hospitals do, but honestly, they are small, for-profit specialty hospitals and are not ideal employers.

The exception is LTAC, which will usually hire a non-BSN RN into their acute care environment. A lot of those nurses then get their BSNs and move on to more traditional acute care hospitals.

Without a BSN, you can get a non-acute care job, like SNF, but then it is pretty hard to cross over into acute care later. If you want to end up in acute care (a traditional hospital), getting the BSN up front would be a lot easier.

This is has not been my clinical and administrative experience, even with my diploma RN.......

Specializes in school nurse.
....I disagree

As a diploma RN

I was Assist Head nurse at a major teaching hospital in Tenn.

I was also Supv in Er of nurse clinicians ( in NC)

assist HN CCU GWU Washington DC

Then Supervisor of ERpvt Hospital Wash.DC,

Then ER in Vah Houston, Also worked Texas Heart in Houston, CCU, Ccvicu, and HN on a CV, oncology floor....

Some pvt duty physicians office,

eR charge S E Tx...

dON in three different LTC/SNF.....

All on my measly diploma RN program.....

It is often geographic influenced.... but 5he geographic location has never held me back...

Best wishes

I'd never call a diploma measly (I know that you're being sarcastic.) Without a doubt, every diploma nurse I've met totally rocked working (or being charge of) the floor.

So, maybe their APA papers were not buffed and shiny (or non-existent) but, really, who cares?

Thats really great, unfortunatley where I am ADNs are phased out except for LTC and homecare, and the region is saturated with nurses as is. Starting wages are less than they were 18 years ago because that is what happens when supply balloons and demand shrinks, which is part of the problem with too many nurses in one area. Employers start combining jobs, so what was three jobs became one, and so on. Starting RN wages in a hospital were $22 per hour when I got out 18 years ago, now they doubled the education requirement to 4 years and starting wages at all the region's hospitals are $23, so all this BSN garbage is just a scam for the colleges to enrich themselves.

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