Religious Exemptions

[Guest219794]

I am against religious exemptions.

I give all deeply held beliefs equal credibility.   My belief system may be informed by organized religion, but it is not defined by organized religion.  And I do not believe an employer is capable of determining which beliefs are valid.

Millions in this country believe the earth is 5,000 years old, and that Eve came from one of Adam's ribs.  That is as scientifically grounded as Q-annon's BS.  Or the belief in Ivermectin.  Or my beliefs.  Beliefs, in my mind, are all equal, and unrelated to pandemic management.

I like this approach:

 

[JadedCPN, BSN, RN]

2 hours ago, Nursenezz said:

Like you,  You could even make up your religion (?pick and choose what you like and don't like about organized religion)  and have your own rules and get exempt. The company doesn't have to agree with you or believe in what you do for it to be approved.  Like it or not.   

And this right here is the danger with these exemptions. 

[BSN-to-MSN, ADN, BSN, RN]

Not much into religion, either.

But people believe what they want to, religion is not based on facts and outsiders cannot argue with it.

If the patient had a religious exemption for COVID vaccine, would we threat him/her differently? because we shouldn't.

[Guest219794]

4 hours ago, BSN-to-MSN said:

If the patient had a religious exemption for COVID vaccine, would we threat him/her differently? because we shouldn't.

100% agree- that was the point of this post.
Religious exemptions should be treated the same as those who decline because of "doing their research".  All of this should be treated the same as somebody who thinks Bill Gates put microchips int the vaccine, or that it is part of a conspiracy, or whatever beliefs somebody may have.  Employers or government have no business in determining the validity of my beliefs.   

This virus does not give a rats a** about your beliefs.  Or my beliefs.  Neither should an employer.

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

6 hours ago, BSN-to-MSN said:

 

If the patient had a religious exemption for COVID vaccine, would we threat him/her differently? because we shouldn't.

We might have to. They are more likely to need treatment with a vent and ECMO than a vaccinated person.

[ComeTogether, LPN]

I'm absolutely against them in healthcare. 

We have a duty to protect our patients, if your religion keeps you from this vaccine, it keeps you from ALL vaccines and that's just not going to work. 

People are using it as an excuse, and In MA they are not accepting them at most facilities. 

 

Oct 8th is the last day for all of the people with my organization who have "religious" exemptions and I'm not even a little bit sorry. 

[MunoRN, RN]

The various explanations of why someone might argue a religious exemption are for the most part moot.

An employer only has to consider the basis of a religious exemption in those relatively rare situations where they are legally required to grant such exemptions.  

If a person opposes the requirements of an employer on religious grounds, an employer is not required to grant that exemption when doing so has no potential affect on their other employees, customers (patients) or the general operation of their business.  Because being unvaccinated can affect each of these, vaccine requirements generally don't have the potential to qualify for exemptions on religious grounds.

[allnurses Admin Team]

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[SmilingBluEyes]

For me it comes down to if you can't receive vaccinations needed for nursing work, then this work is ill-suited. That's all I have to say.

[klone, MSN, RN]

The Satanic Temple encourages vaccination and does not support religious exemptions if any kind. 

[Hoosier_RN, MSN]

On 10/7/2021 at 4:33 PM, nursej22 said:

We might have to. They are more likely to need treatment with a vent and ECMO than a vaccinated person.

This makes me wonder then about those that don't take the vaccine for health reasons. They are just as likely to get it, regardless of precautions. They will then need vents, ECMO, CRRT, etc. 

I know, that's a whole new thread...

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

2 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

This makes me wonder then about those that don't take the vaccine for health reasons. They are just as likely to get it, regardless of precautions. They will then need vents, ECMO, CRRT, etc. 

I know, that's a whole new thread...

This.  And the real lack of logic comes in when they get admitted and have to take all sorts of medications that came from fetal cell research or weren't "thoroughly researched enough" before tried on humans in ICU's.  Now the general public?  I get it and give them a knowledge exemption.  I wonder if the nurses who object to the vaccines are those that have never worked in an ICU.  Do I have to give them one of my "knowledge exemptions" or should we expect better thinking?

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

1 hour ago, subee said:

This.  And the real lack of logic comes in when they get admitted and have to take all sorts of medications that came from fetal cell research or weren't "thoroughly researched enough" before tried on humans in ICU's.  Now the general public?  I get it and give them a knowledge exemption.  I wonder if the nurses who object to the vaccines are those that have never worked in an ICU.  Do I have to give them one of my "knowledge exemptions" or should we expect better thinking?

I have a former RN coworker who claimed a religious exemption, plus she had "natural immunity" so didn't think she needed a shot. And she stated she had floated to the "COVID unit" and it wasn't that bad. I don't think she was in ICU. She posted a lengthy diatribe about how she and her family were victims of government overreach, after she resigned. I doubt she would decline monoclonal antibodies.