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subee MSN, CRNA

CRNA, Finally retired
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subee has 48 years experience as a MSN, CRNA and specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.


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  1. Aren't they required to have an RN in any level of surgi-center? I don't think they are hiring her out of the kindness of her heart:) If they were legally permitted to get away with a LPN, they would.
  2. Sounds like a great gig. I have never worked anyplace so unbusy. I'm not even sure how the finances can work for the long run.
  3. I had hoped to give her another view of what OR nursing skillsets are and that PACU and Pre-op are different practices than the OR. She is a new grad and trying to make a decision on something she knows nothing about. I didn't want to get into this but I'll tell her why SOME people may grimace: In the olden times back in the late 70's and early 80's, I worked in a large hospital in NYC on the floor. The OR was where nurses who had exhibited a "lack of people skills" were sent rather than the union attempting to have their jobs kept on the floors. It was just easier to offer that alternative than trying to outright fire them. I can't imagine that this new grad is getting this from anyone old enough to remember that:) So, on second thought, I advise her to ask the folks who make a face, what they mean by it. I could be wrong assuming that they just don't don't see it as nursing. I don't either. It is AS important in it's own right and the person doing the job needs to have a license (since the scrub tech doesn't) but there is nothing on that NCLEX that transfers to OR nursing.
  4. OK, I will be the dissenting voice. If one worked exclusively in the OR, I see no reason to be an RN. You hardly have any patient contact. One does need to be able to think quickly on your feet and be able to troubleshoot the equipment and be expert in keeping a safe room but I don't know that an RN degree is the most efficient way to provide that service. I've always thought that we needed the ORN degree (operating room nurse) and that they are trained in sterility, room and process safety, communication skills, some ACLS skills (be familiar with preparing emergency drugs and BLS) and the art of team building. None of these are taught in college. The orientation period is long (where is all the stuff you might need in a hurry?). This would be an associate degree. Then, if one wants to become qualified in to work in PACU or Pre-op they could go on for the BSN. I have watched hospitals "train" so many OR nurses and then watch them leave after orientation to go to another place who would't hire them without OR experience. It's expensive and frustrating to watch this and I wasn't even an employee of the hospital but felt their pain. These ORN's can graduate on Friday and be up and running on Monday.
  5. subee

    The economics of PA vs. NP

    I was in an MBA program for a year and it was all fluff except for the finance classes. Do-doo degree.
  6. subee

    Is anyone else holy crap concerned?

    He would never, ever wear glasses because he thinks it's a sign of weakness as well as a vanity issue.
  7. I don't know enough to know why, but I do remember when hospitals depended on the labor of student nurses. Hospitals are spending more money than ever with extended orientations or residencies without being invested in nursing education. Is anyone else here old enough to remember the 5 year plan for nursing education? I interviewed at Cornell Hospital's school of nursing in 1972. They required 60 credits as a minimum for admission but the applicants usually had bachelor's because the program was so competitive. You then attended the hospital school (with Cornell instructors) for 3 years paying the low tuition diploma programs offered. Yes, you spent and extra year in college, BUT if you went to the first 2 years in a community college, it could be much cheaper than the standard 4 year program and your degree came from Cornell. Columbia also used the same model. Students graduated on Friday and hit the floor on Monday ready to work because of the extensive clinical hours. What happened when nursing education became so separated from hospitals? Some of you may know the answer to this. BTW, I was rejected with a previous BA degree because I had a C in chem. Right there at the interview, told I would have to re-take those 8 credits:( Ended up part-time at a private university but it still took 3 years to get the BSN.
  8. The website you have noted claims science to be false. It is a collection of comically skewed articles for wildly gullible readers. If you went to college, you should ask for a refund.
  9. His life at least served as a warning to others. Good dresser. That's about it.
  10. Well, yes, you are. You have the advantage of time and probably not a lot of flights to China or Europe. You were warned not to re-open so quickly but ya went ahead and did it anyway. You had the data on how to not make this happen but went ahead with a cowboy mentality that doesn't work when group cohesion is a survival technique. There was no need to stress the hospital systems, the people who work in them and cost your state an amount of money I can't imagine. We can live with a partial re-opening a lot easier than having to re-close. Your governor is an ignorant wing nut who caused your state a great deal of pain. It's like he was actually a Putin puppet trying to create as much disease as possible. Texas's contribution to humanity is now being a beacon of stupidity and a warning to others.
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    Frazzled New Nurse Stuck on Rotating Shifts

    What the above posters have said about working straight nights. One CAN get used to nights but one can NEVER adjust to rotating shifts. They are barbaric and I thought they went out with the 80's. Pay people a good shift differential for nights and they will come.
  12. subee

    HELP! Don't know what to do.

    It would be wiser for you not to post using your real name.
  13. Many people in anesthesia have mental health issues - as witnessed by our high rates of addiction to drugs as well as plain old adrenaline (which IMHO) is a lot more prevalent. Sounds like you have learned some coping mechanisms and will be fine.
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    Coronavirus Second Wave?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/15/coronavirus-mask-shortage-texas-manufacturing/ Mike Bowen warned the government years ago and every year since. No takers. https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/risk-coronavirus-reinfection-remains-after-recovery I'm a nurse and science tells me otherwise. Where are all these fabulous T cells for HIV patients, immunocomprised patients, old people, people with cancer? How do they protect themselves from people who won't wear masks? I saw a anti-masker on a video bend over an cough into the face of an infant. D., I don't think you are a sociopath but they are everywhere so why not just be safer?
  15. Me! IMHO, the logical conclusion to your argument is that no one except an an African trained provider could make things right in Africa. Who do you think should decide who gets to run a trial in Africa? Now, if you could lead me to consider that the continent has actually suffered from drug trials that were conducted no where else, that would give you points. Feel free to educate me. My mind is open. The studies our own Americans conducted in the South strike me as more evil than drug trials in Africa. What steps would make it more just for you without the patient suffering more because they couldn't have access to the drug? There are cancer patients begging to get in trials here with some very tough therapies. t

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