As far as I know, we don't have any transgendered students in my school. If we did, I'd make sure he or she was aware that my restroom is available whenever needed. We're still dealing with some bullying and other issues with my school population.. I would personally keep a close eye on any transgendered or any other child that is "different" in my school, for sure.
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Seriously? How much contact have you had with the transgendered?
A trans female is NOT going to walk around looking like a Justin Bieber wannabe, with a six pack and copious underarm hair.
There is not much to fear from the transgendered (except that some of them look better in a dress and heels than I do, but that's my issue lol).
I just saw a news report about an 8 year old girl who was jumped in a restaurant bathroom. While her mother was in the next stall.
By a large, bat crap crazy male.
Who identifies as a male.
THAT'S who you need to be concerned about sharing a public restroom with your daughter.
It really isn't the transgendered that anyone is worrying about. It's the people claiming to be transgendered so they can have easy access. You really don't think teenage boys will dare each other to try this to get into the girls' locker room?
Like every good idea that's meant to make life easier for someone, this one has the potential for abuse. It's not bigoted to want to work out some of the potential bugs before universal implementation.
It really isn't the transgendered that anyone is worrying about. It's the people claiming to be transgendered so they can have easy access. You really don't think teenage boys will dare each other to try this to get into the girls' locker room?
Like every good idea that's meant to make life easier for someone, this one has the potential for abuse. It's not bigoted to want to work out some of the potential bugs before universal implementation.
No. I don't think teenage boys will dare each other to act as TG to get into the girls bathroom.
What kind of teenage boys do you all know? Give me a break!
Hi. Male here. I think this is a ridiculous concern. Kids are not going to open themselves up to the scrutiny (and harassment) of their peers by openly identifying as transgender in order to change in the girl's locker room. Teens are self-conscious by nature (it's why they're so concerned with dressing like their friends). Expressing your gender identity isn't something one only does during gym class. It's an all day everyday thing; it's an expression of what a person is. Kids aren't going to choose to live like that unless it's who they are. Believing they will is simply buying into fear that has no rational basis.
Thanks, D. You said it way better than I could. And of course, you're a male. So you "get it".
This author experienced something horrible, and that shouldn't be diminished, but her experience has nothing to do with people who are transgender, or people pretending to be women. Hence, this story, while tragic, appears to be trying to tie an unrelated issue to her trauma in a way that seems very unfair.
She mentions three names, who should be Googled. All of them are men who pretended to be women in order to have access to women in bathrooms. They weren't transgender or pretending to be transgender. This distinction is important. A person who is pretending does so for short periods of time in order to accomplish a goal and then stops, but if being a woman is your identity then you're a woman 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A student doesn't get to claim they're transgender only during gym class.
In NC this man must use the woman's room. If you want to see that this person is biologically female just google it. To me he identifies as male, I wouldn't question it. Trans people exist and have their own rights and issues that need to be addressed. Bathrooms are not an issue in my opinion. I don't know what you all think happens in bathrooms, but people generally pee there, than leave. Hopefully after washing their hands. I'm proud to say as a bathroom user I haven't seen another users genitals in about 20 years or so. I don't see the problem.
This author experienced something horrible, and that shouldn't be diminished, but her experience has nothing to do with people who are transgender, or people pretending to be women. Hence, this story, while tragic, appears to be trying to tie an unrelated issue to her trauma in a way that seems very unfair.
She mentions three names, who should be Googled. All of them are men who pretended to be women in order to have access to women in bathrooms. They weren't transgender or pretending to be transgender. This distinction is important. A person who is pretending does so for short periods of time in order to accomplish a goal and then stops, but if being a woman is your identity then you're a woman 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A student doesn't get to claim they're transgender only during gym class.
THIS is why I SMH. The media attention will give opportunists one more chance to perpetrate their evil. Having the media shove their agenda for the 0.2% people will endanger a far greater percentage. Especially because nothing is really going to change for the transgendered, they just want to be accepted, so others safety doesn't matter to them. I wouldn't doubt that some may secretly desire a payback for the persecution that they have received.
THIS is why I SMH. The media attention will give opportunists one more chance to perpetrate their evil. Having the media shove their agenda for the 0.2% people will endanger a far greater percentage. Especially because nothing is really going to change for the transgendered, they just want to be accepted, so others safety doesn't matter to them. I wouldn't doubt that some may secretly desire a payback for the persecution that they have received.
Ohhh, so you are thinking about the kids. The normal or not normal or abnormal or crazy kids?
imintrouble, in her OP, posed this question in a SN forum asking how we as nurses would handle it.
I already am. So are many of us.
My kids? My students? They are NORMAL. And they will have a safe place to pee at school. All of them.
Are sexual predators going to somehow dress up and look like the opposite sex and go into that bathroom because they can now do so legally?
How about the sexual predators that already are in the bathroom with their sex of preference?
Because sexual predators engage in this activity publicly while people are looking in broad daylight. If there is sexual assault going on isn't it usually when no one can see them? which makes this irrelevant, because they are going to go into whatever bathroom they darn well please regardless of the law.
Add to that that 80% of people that have been sexually assaulted have been at the hands of someone they know, not some stranger in the bathroom.
According to NBC "Over 200 municipalities and 18 states have nondiscrimination laws protecting transgender people's access to facilities consistent with the gender they live every day,†according to the coalition. "None of those jurisdictions have [sic] seen a rise in sexual violence or other public safety issues due to nondiscrimination laws"
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As far as I know, we don't have any transgendered students in my school. If we did, I'd make sure he or she was aware that my restroom is available whenever needed. We're still dealing with some bullying and other issues with my school population.. I would personally keep a close eye on any transgendered or any other child that is "different" in my school, for sure.