President Trump and the First Lady Test COVID Positive

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The News earlier tonight shared that Hope Hicks became ill Wednesday night, and tested today and COVID-19 positive --per President Trump's confirmed tweet tonight. A few hours later, he confirmed the First Lady and he tested positive and are now  in quarantine.

 

3 hours ago, DesiDani said:

To londonflo.

Some don't think so. Some people may find a bully likeable. It happens

Weak? Small? I don't think of the service like that. Sure I said some do stupid things but they are hardly weak and small.

Women. You are projecting. Sure he is a jerk around women, but hey many men are. That is the sad reality

I’ve met the man. He doesn’t just bully the weak and the small (though those seem to be his most common targets). He has made it a point to discard anyone who does not go along with what he wants. 
 

Anyone who refuses to do what he wants or gets in his way will not be in their job for very long. That’s my observation of him in person and it’s been his history, both in his civilian life as well as his habit as leader of the free world. 
 

have you not been paying attention to how many people he’s gotten rid of just for not playing ball the way he wants it done? No one can even provide him with a moral or ethical reality check without being fired. 
 

 Could care less about basic bullying. That’s not what this guy does. I’ve personally seen him go far beyond basic bullying into outright abuse. That’s not someone you’re allowed to say “no” to. 

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18 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Those are only some of the things that he has said in public or on the record.  Imagine his "private" language. 

It’s absolutely horrifying. And yes, it’s MUCH worse and MUCH more violent than just his offensive public comments. And the violence is not restricted only to verbal. 

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4 hours ago, DesiDani said:

How many of you have ever been in the military? If you have you would know that not everything that a person does is smart. I wish would be, but it is not.

You all have this narrow nurses pov. I can perfectly understand. 

You really, really don’t have to have served in the military in order to realize that people don’t always do smart things.. 

DesiDani, you don’t know what experiences other posters have.

I don’t understand why you’re constantly bringing up the military? In many countries protecting heads of state is the responsibility of a law enforcement agency, not the military. What about the United States Secret Service? (As a side note, as a European it really hurts my eyes when posters refer to the Secret Service as SS, but maybe that’s just me). 

I don’t have a nurse’s ”narrow point of view”. I don’t know if you intended to be insulting, but to me it felt as if you think we’re morons and only you have a grasp of the complicated world of close protection, not to mention how men act when they’re away from their families. 

I have no idea if Trump is all buddy buddy with his security detail, although my experience tends to make me think not. But whether he is or isn’t, is not relevant.

From an infection control point of view it was not a good idea to get into a small, enclosed space with a person merely three days after becoming symptomatic and two days after his symptoms had worsened. From the perspective of the close protection officers, they willingly accept a certain amount of risk when they choose their profession. But that risk is generally understood to come from outside sources, not the protectee/principal. 

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10 minutes ago, macawake said:

What about the United States Secret Service? (As a side note, as a European it really hurts my eyes when posters refer to the Secret Service as SS, but maybe that’s just me). 

No, not just you.  I wish more Americans understood the threat that right wing authoritarian ideology poses to our republic. 

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46 minutes ago, macawake said:

European it really hurts my eyes when posters refer to the Secret Service as SS, but maybe that’s just me). 

Sorry about that. I assure you, it’s something I’ve only started to do very recently. 

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2 hours ago, macawake said:

(As a side note, as a European it really hurts my eyes when posters refer to the Secret Service as SS, but maybe that’s just me). 

Nope, me too.

 

2 hours ago, macawake said:

I don’t understand why you’re constantly bringing up the military?

This seems to be a very American thing. Around the world the military are not held in such high esteem - really would not expect anyone to say "Thanks for your service." It is seen as a job like any other.

Just as an addendum to that - and I really, really, am not trying to be controversial or confrontational - the American military are not seen as all that professional. You have loads of equipment but you are far too "gung ho" to work with other countries. Just as an example, more British troops killed by American forces than by Iraqi forces during Desert Storm.

 

Sorry moderators I know this is slightly off topic and goes against almost everything Americans believe but this poster is bringing in the military (wrongly I believe) with everything s/he writes. Please feel free to delete it if you wish.

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8 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Obviously. I made the point that it is sounds like they volunteered willingly. Strangely many of you feel that could NEVER happen. There will always be the instigator when people do bad things. Only takes one person. Sure they have to do what they are told, but that doesn't mean that informal interactions don't happen sometimes.

Then they need to write the manual:  Procedure For Case of Psychotic POTUS.  I thought I was safe after moving out of NY after 52 years, but this guy has followed me!  Ugh.

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4 hours ago, macawake said:

(As a side note, as a European it really hurts my eyes when posters refer to the Secret Service as SS, but maybe that’s just me). 

 

Me as well.

The man who shot up two mosques last year and killed 51 people and attempted to kill many more was very much a right winged nationalist. One of those charming people who believed that whites are under threat

The shooter was on no ones watch list

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4 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

This seems to be a very American thing. Around the world the military are not held in such high esteem - really would not expect anyone to say "Thanks for your service." It is seen as a job like any other.

 

Europeans aren't coming home in caskets the way American soldiers are still in 2020, so even though you might think them incompetent, it's easy in my mind to still hold them high esteem.  So yeah, it's an American thing.  

Many of us are able to separate our objections to the violence of war from the heroics of the soldier.  

We also have this very American attitude coming from our President   "“Iran knows that they have been put on notice. If you *** around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going do things to you that have never been done before..."

and so it goes.

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10 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

Nope, me too.

 

This seems to be a very American thing. Around the world the military are not held in such high esteem - really would not expect anyone to say "Thanks for your service." It is seen as a job like any other.

Just as an addendum to that - and I really, really, am not trying to be controversial or confrontational - the American military are not seen as all that professional. You have loads of equipment but you are far too "gung ho" to work with other countries. Just as an example, more British troops killed by American forces than by Iraqi forces during Desert Storm.

 

Sorry moderators I know this is slightly off topic and goes against almost everything Americans believe but this poster is bringing in the military (wrongly I believe) with everything s/he writes. Please feel free to delete it if you wish.

Since 9/11 in particular and with our perpetual wars and interventions in general, strong patriotism is a necessity to keep general support of our military policy. You can’t criticize US military intervention without specifying that you still support the troops themselves without getting a lot of backlash. 

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8 hours ago, Tweety said:

even though you might think them incompetent,

Sorry Tweety, but at no point did I say or imply that your troops are incompetent. I did say that they are not seen as professional as other troops because for one thing they "don't play nicely with others." 

I had no intention of starting a discussion on this and stated that I realise that it was off topic but felt it required to be said.

For clarity, I will not respond to any other posts about this unless it is on the topic. And please, please, please can no-one state anything about "speaking German." 

 

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15 hours ago, subee said:

I thought I was safe after moving out of NY after 52 years, but this guy has followed me!  Ugh.

I feeeeeeel your pain! ???

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