President Trump and the First Lady Test COVID Positive

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The News earlier tonight shared that Hope Hicks became ill Wednesday night, and tested today and COVID-19 positive --per President Trump's confirmed tweet tonight. A few hours later, he confirmed the First Lady and he tested positive and are now  in quarantine.

 

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2 hours ago, DesiDani said:

The secret service can also tell their assignment and that includes the president no. I believe that many here have the false impression that the president tells the secret service and they do, not the other way around. I'm sure that Trump and other presidents have been declined request because of risk concerns. Considering that they had on N95s maybe a doctor said sure with a N95 on after consulting one. As I said earlier since the head of detail went to, he was likely buddy with Trump ( I could be wrong). As for the other one who knows. Many may despise Trump, but I'm thinking they went willingly.

From what I’ve read they can only refuse assignments that put the president at risk, not themselves. And from the article I posted, it sounds like many of them feel like the president is unnecessarily putting them at risk. And if the head of secret service did volunteer for that photo op joyride, it sure isn’t unreasonable to speculate that he acted to protect his people from an assignment that posed none to minimal risk to the president and very high risk to his attendants in the car.
 

And you care or you don’t. The president doesn’t seem to care. You don’t seem to care. 
 

The big trouble with a pandemic is that risk doesn’t end at the individual. The SS being placed at risk, the white house staff being placed at risk. They place all of THEIR households and contacts at risk. The risk doesn’t just stop with people who may or may not agreed to it or may or may not have the option to say no.

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2 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Many may despise Trump, but I'm thinking they went willingly.

When the choice is to go or to lose your job, that’s not considered “willingly”

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2 hours ago, Nurse GreenBean said:

When the choice is to go or to lose your job, that’s not considered “willingly”

Who said they would loose their job. The secret service can refuse and tell the president no.

 

Sigh! Many you have this idea that it is impossible for them to willingly volunteer for such a task and that is the problem. People put the military on pedestals as if they are Gods. I'm telling you that many are respectable, but some do stupid things even higher ups and Trump is the perfect vehicle for that. Hate him, but he is known for a being a playboy him being old isn't going to change that. As for their family. I'm sure they love their family a  lot, but men around men do stupid things. the wife and kids at home at the second is not on their mind. You may not want to hear that, but it is true for some.

 

I wouldn't be surprised that Trump left his hospital room and started hobnobbing with the secret service as if he was one of the guys. He had to be bored without his usual attention.  Some on detail likely went along as a "job", but some likely enjoyed it because he is Trump.

There are nurses who somehow find the A-hole patient charming, while some just smile and get out when they are done.

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2 hours ago, HiddencatBSN said:

From what I’ve read they can only refuse assignments that put the president at risk, not themselves. And from the article I posted, it sounds like many of them feel like the president is unnecessarily putting them at risk. And if the head of secret service did volunteer for that photo op joyride, it sure isn’t unreasonable to speculate that he acted to protect his people from an assignment that posed none to minimal risk to the president and very high risk to his attendants in the car.
 

And you care or you don’t. The president doesn’t seem to care. You don’t seem to care. 
 

The big trouble with a pandemic is that risk doesn’t end at the individual. The SS being placed at risk, the white house staff being placed at risk. They place all of THEIR households and contacts at risk. The risk doesn’t just stop with people who may or may not agreed to it or may or may not have the option to say no.

My feelings have nothing to do with it. I'm just saying that it is not outside of the possibility that the ones that went wanted to go. They are humans, not robots (Deja vu). 

2 hours ago, Nurse GreenBean said:

their requests are declined  when the SS cannot make the situation safe *for the President*

What? and if they feel it is not safe

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1 minute ago, DesiDani said:

My feelings have nothing to do with it. I'm just saying that it is not outside of the possibility that the ones that went wanted to go. They are humans, not robots (Deja vu). 

Whether or not they wanted to go is really irrelevant in a discussion about the wisdom of making such a trip in the firstt place. The trip itself is evidence that Trump is making unsafe and unwise choices, placing people's health in peril for no good reason.  

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How many of you have ever been in the military? If you have you would know that not everything that a person does is smart. I wish would be, but it is not.

You all have this narrow nurses pov. I can perfectly understand. 

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Just now, toomuchbaloney said:

Whether or not they wanted to go is really irrelevant in a discussion about the wisdom of making such a trip in the firstt place. The trip itself is evidence that Trump is making unsafe and unwise choices, placing people's health in peril for no good reason.  

Obviously. I made the point that it is sounds like they volunteered willingly. Strangely many of you feel that could NEVER happen. There will always be the instigator when people do bad things. Only takes one person. Sure they have to do what they are told, but that doesn't mean that informal interactions don't happen sometimes.

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6 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

How many of you have ever been in the military? If you have you would know that not everything that a person does is smart. I wish would be, but it is not.

You all have this narrow nurses pov. I can perfectly understand. 

Nonsense.

We aren't the topic here. 

The irrational, self-centered and unsafe behavior of the president exacerbated by his illness and medications is being discussed.  You are actually interacting with people who have worked in fields other than nursing. 

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3 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

Obviously. I made the point that it is sounds like they volunteered willingly. Strangely many of you feel that could NEVER happen. There will always be the instigator when people do bad things. Only takes one person. Sure they have to do what they are told, but that doesn't mean that informal interactions don't happen sometimes.

They were unnecessarily placed in harms way for a joy ride.  During a pandemic. The judgment causing that is deeply flawed. 

That pig is going to need a lot more lipstick...

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No, it is not. You are rightly thinking like nurses. I feel that I am more realistic in my POV.

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

They were unnecessarily placed in harms way for a joy ride.  During a pandemic. The judgment causing that is deeply flawed. 

"Joy ride" exactly

"That pig is going to need a lot more lipstick..."

Well that is telling

 

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25 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

How many of you have ever been in the military? If you have you would know that not everything that a person does is smart. I wish would be, but it is not.

You all have this narrow nurses pov. I can perfectly understand. 

I’m sorry we can’t all be pondering topics of deeper import, like whether nurses should date doctors and the continuing ED habits of our coworkers. Shallow, I know, to be concerned about infection spread, unnecessary risk, and people being put at risk for political gain during a pandemic.

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October 10th   Presidential Update from Dr. Conely--

PCR standards no longer transmission risk to others   interpreted by President full speed ahead to resume daily rallies.

 

Why add "fever free for well over 24 hrs"  -- infers he was having fevers post hospital discharge., concerning.  "All symptoms improved" --   interpreted as symptoms ongoing,  not resolved?

Still at risk to  relapse and pick up secondary infection as overly stressing himself with rallies rather than resting to regain strength.

 

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