President Trump and the First Lady Test COVID Positive

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The News earlier tonight shared that Hope Hicks became ill Wednesday night, and tested today and COVID-19 positive --per President Trump's confirmed tweet tonight. A few hours later, he confirmed the First Lady and he tested positive and are now  in quarantine.

 

21 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Huh? Well if you sign up the military or the police you are in way signing that you will risk your life to some degree. So I don't see the duty to protect the president is relevant?

At what point is a driver in the military? Or a waiter or waitress? Are they putting 40 year employees of the White House’s housekeeping staff through marine training now?

 

your response to my earlier post focused solely on someone “volunteering” to step in to drive if the driver refused. 
 

you forgot to address the issue raised that this driver would then be out of a job that he’s invested years of his life in. A job that he invested his life in without ever once signing up to be put into danger BY the president BECAUSE of a silly and very selfish act by that President. Certainly without signing up for the police or the military. As with the servers, housekeepers and the hundreds of other Residence staff that have been WH employees for decades who now have to choose between their health and their multi decade investments in their livelihoods. 
 

that’s an incredibly selfish thing to do to people when it’s so easily avoided. 

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The moderators recommend that we move on from the secret service task a few post earlier. I respect everyone's opinion and feedback. It was enlightening and engaging.

But time to move it along?

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On 10/8/2020 at 9:39 PM, DesiDani said:

Huh? Well if you sign up the military or the police you are in way signing that you will risk your life to some degree. So I don't see the duty to protect the president is relevant?

I don't think the Secret Service would claim it's not their job to protect the President when he's engaging in necessary travel, they would agree that's 'what they signed up for'.

But to use your military example, if a General ordered a bunch of soldiers to run around in a minefield to entertain him because he's bored, I don't think the soldiers would agree 'that's what they signed up for'.  

I would argue that a decent person doesn't put their staff in a hermetically sealed confined space with them while they are contagious with a pandemic-level disease for no apparent reason, other than you're bored.

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4 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I don't think the Secret Service would claim it's not their job to protect the President when he's engaging in necessary travel, they would agree that's 'what they signed up for'.

But to use your military example, if a General ordered a bunch of soldiers to run around in a minefield to entertain him because he's bored, I don't think the soldiers would agree 'that's what they signed up for'.  

I would argue that a decent person doesn't put their staff in a hermetically sealed confined space with them while they are contagious with a pandemic-level disease for no apparent reason, other than you're bored.

Exactly!  I mean, how would Trump have felt if he had been given such orders when he was doing his military service.

Oh, wait...

I wonder if Walter Reed did a "two-fer" and handled those debilitating bone spurs while he was there...

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In fact, the joy ride was clear evidence of Trump's terrible and uncaring judgement.  He is a psychopath. 

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My DH would have let the world know how I'm doing if he was President -- heard Melania mentioned once in all his videos + Fox news call-ins.  Trumps concern re staff -crickets.

Flotus Twitter post  10/06/20: 

Update on the Health and Safety Precautions taken within the Executive Residence

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The health and safety of the Residence staff is of the utmost importance to the First Family.

Since March, the Residence has adopted hospital-grade disinfection policies, had White House Medical Unit lead coronavirus workshops so staff could have their concerns addressed, significantly reduced staff, and encouraged maximum teleworking. The Residence also installed additional sanitization and filtration systems throughout the Executive Mansion.

The health of Residence staff members and their families are a paramount concern to the First Family so the following precautionary measures have been taken during this pandemic:

In March, similar sanitization and filtration systems were provided to each Residence employee to be used in their homes to further protect them and their family members.

In the beginning of April, all Residence staff were required to wear masks at all times.

Residence staff in direct contact with the First Family are tested daily, with support staff tested every 48 hours.

In addition to support from the Medical Unit, the Residence has hired independent health consultants who are available to check on staff and their families, facilitating ancillary testing as needed.

The Residence also hired a ‘well-being’ consultant, which staff members can speak to anonymously, specifically to focus on mental health concerns.

With the recent positive results of the President and First Lady, staff wear full PPE and continue to take all necessary precautions, which include updated procedures to protect against cross contamination.

 

Chis Christie announced today discharged post 7 day hospitalization.

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10 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I don't think the Secret Service would claim it's not their job to protect the President when he's engaging in necessary travel, they would agree that's 'what they signed up for'.

But to use your military example, if a General ordered a bunch of soldiers to run around in a minefield to entertain him because he's bored, I don't think the soldiers would agree 'that's what they signed up for'.  

I would argue that a decent person doesn't put their staff in a hermetically sealed confined space with them while they are contagious with a pandemic-level disease for no apparent reason, other than you're bored.

That's a far-fetched example

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3 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

That's a far-fetched example

In what way is it far fetched?

Is the risk of contracting COVID less than the risk of exploding a mine? If a soldier explodes a mine, could she make the media, doctors and nurses sick when they are rescued from the mine field and hospitalized.  

An order based in faulty judgement and risk assessment is wrong no matter the scenario. 

"Volunteer lawyers will advise military personnel who question the legality of orders during protests, election disputes"
By Shane Harris

Volunteer lawyers will advise military personnel who question the legality of orders during protests, election disputes

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15 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

That's a far-fetched example

That’s not far fetched. That’s a pretty close parallel to what he did. Except that he also involved civilians in the risk. 

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36 minutes ago, DesiDani said:

That's a far-fetched example

Doesn’t make it any less accurate though. Both scenarios involve endangering others solely for self-gratification as opposed to something essential. It’s only far-fetched because most generals aren’t sociopaths. 
 

 

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I know this isn’t the politics part of AN but I still think the following clip is relevant even though it’s a political ad. (If the moderators feel differently, please remove it). I think the only way we’ll be able to minimize the spread of Covid-19, is if we all work together and be considerate to our fellow human beings. Sadly I’m not seeing your President doing that. The car ride around the hospital was in my opinion an unfortunate and unnecessary choice. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

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"Volunteer lawyers will advise military personnel who question the legality of orders during protests, election disputes"
By Shane Harris

Volunteer lawyers will advise military personnel who question the legality of orders during protests, election disputes

Your link takes me to the next page.  Is this the article you were referring to: Volunteer lawyers will advise military personnel who question the legality of orders during protests, election disputes

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