Hospitals Firing Seasoned Nurses: Nurses FIGHT Back!

Facilities are firing seasoned, higher paid nurses and utilizing younger less experienced nurses. This cost-cutting measure is putting patients at risk, working nursing and support staff to the point of exhaustion, and causing staff to leave the profession. Nurses General Nursing Article

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This article was written by a member on allnurses. Due to the controversial and emotionally charged nature of the article, the member wanted the topic out in the open so nurses could discuss it. Because she is afraid of retribution if any of her hospital administrative staff should read this article and link it back to her, we offered to publish it for her anonymously. Please add your comments regarding this issue negatively impacting nurses and the healthcare system.

An Open Letter to Hospital Administrators

I am an experienced nurse that has watched many of my very talented colleagues leave the bedside due to the changes that have taken place in healthcare as of late. I have seen staff cut to the minimum, while patient acuity and nurse to patient ratios increase. I have seen support staff break down in tears because they have not been able to do their jobs properly. I have seen staff pushed to their breaking point, all the while administration stays in their offices, or in the meetings, determining yet more ways they can cut our resources. I see your salaries raised to ridiculous amounts, while we are denied cost of living increases, housekeeping is cut at night, and our benefits cost more, while the services are decreased.

I see our retirement cut while at the same time, the amount matched continues to be diminished or non-existent.

I see ways in which we are constantly blamed for declining patient satisfaction, increased patient falls, late medication administration, all the while we are asked to do more with less. I have seen you fire experienced staff and hire less experienced, cheaper, staff. I have seen that new staff break down because they have no resources, no experience to draw from and I have seen patients suffer from that inexperience. I have seen codes increase, inappropriate admissions to floors, transfers to higher levels of care, all because no one was there initially to advocate for a higher level of care for the patient, to begin with.

I still see you in your office. I do not see you on the floor. I see you with your graphs, your pie charts, your questions about readmission rates when I had already advocated for that patient to stay longer but was simply laughed off by doctors and not supported by you. Yet, somehow, I need to be on a committee to fix the problem.

I am now required to work extra shifts, because staff are getting sick due to stress, or leaving completely because they are tired of dealing with things. I see you develop a culture of fear, where our jobs are at stake and threatened at every turn. Yet, you still look to me for solutions.

"How can we do more with what we have?" I am asked.

My answer: There is no way to do more. We are at our limit. You are losing nurses as fast as you are gaining them, at a time when we need to be building up our profession when the baby boomers are just starting to become a factor in our healthcare environment.

My answer to this is simple. It is time to get real and start valuing your employees. If you want to be reimbursed for patient satisfaction, increase your services. Staff departments with what they need - enough nurses, enough aids, monitor techs, secretaries, ED techs, whatever. Then you will see positive results. Falls will decrease. Medication errors will decrease and medications will be given on time. Patients will get the treatment they deserve and patient satisfaction scores will improve. Your reimbursement will improve and you will stop losing money. Everyone wins: most importantly, the patients.

We need to stop the assembly-line mentality of medicine and return to the service mentality.

Yes, we are a business. But any business that has ever done well has not done well by decreasing the services to people or by mistreating its staff. Otherwise, healthcare facilities are going to see more of the same and suffer more financial penalties, less high-quality staff, and patients will suffer.

I was talking with several of my colleagues just the other day. All of us had many years of experience. Many had been at the bedside for over 20+ years. Many are leaving the bedside due to the unsafe conditions they are seeing. They just don't want to be a part of it. Perhaps this does not scare you, but it should. You must not be a patient yet.

For a follow-up article, please go to Nurses Fight Back! Why Some Hospitals are Despicable

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Im a LPN with less than 1 year exp, who got out of bedside/floor pt care ALREADY due to the bullying by the seasoned nurses I have worked with. If only I had a preceptor that WANTED to teach me instead of belittling and being condescending but had PATIENCE, I'd be there to help in short staffed situations and have changed nfidence to learn and pick up new skills in aln environment conducive to learning and evolving. i thought vowed to "do no harm" yet seasoned nurses haves harmed me in ways I now want to get out of nursing altogether, even with nursing school loans still to be paid. I've talked to so so many new baby nurses in the same boat, resorting to med pass at prisons to make decent $ bc the prison is better than the bullying from our coworkers!!! Now that's a sad thought! If you want cheaper, younger, but GOOD nurses to pick up the slack in shortage of coverage, how about start treating the new ones who are hungry to learn with respect instead of making them feel incompetent after doing a skill 3-4 times.?! You might. I amazed at the he takent of a new nurse if given an environment to thrive without mentally sabotaging their efforts. Now it's coming to a head where the nursing shortage wouldn't be that bad if we had seasoned nurses willing to teach us without the bullying. How about fire the bullies but keep the ones willing to pass on their skills to the newbies looking up to them and striving to be a good seasoned nurse WITH A GOOD ATTITUDE (before the attitude gets ruined by all the daily harassment and humiliation) that will get passed down to other newbies and so on instead of throwing a newbie under the bus with every error made (prob by the seasoned nurse -in my case).

Specializes in ER.
It is hard to leave the bedside, because then they win, and the patients suffer. How do we balance that?

The compassion in our profession makes us exploitable. Big business knows our breaking point. Suffer? A day without nurses = people DIE. They bank, literally, on us not going there. Still, the fact that lives of the nation are in our hands equals massive power if it is harnessed properly.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Rockinlaura said:
Im a LPN with less than 1 year exp, who got out of bedside/floor pt care ALREADY due to the bullying by the seasoned nurses I have worked with. If only I had a preceptor that WANTED to teach me instead of belittling and being condescending but had PATIENCE, I'd be there to help in short staffed situations and have changed nfidence to learn and pick up new skills in aln environment conducive to learning and evolving. I thought vowed to "do no harm" yet seasoned nurses haves harmed me in ways I now want to get out of nursing altogether, even with nursing school loans still to be paid. I've talked to so so many new baby nurses in the same boat, resorting to med pass at prisons to make decent $ bc the prison is better than the bullying from our coworkers! Now that's a sad thought! If you want cheaper, younger, but GOOD nurses to pick up the slack in shortage of coverage, how about start treating the new ones who are hungry to learn with respect instead of making them feel incompetent after doing a skill 3-4 times.?! You might. I amazed at the he takent of a new nurse if given an environment to thrive without mentally sabotaging their efforts. Now it's coming to a head where the nursing shortage wouldn't be that bad if we had seasoned nurses willing to teach us without the bullying. How about fire the bullies but keep the ones willing to pass on their skills to the newbies looking up to them and striving to be a good seasoned nurse WITH A GOOD ATTITUDE (before the attitude gets ruined by all the daily harassment and humiliation) that will get passed down to other newbies and so on instead of throwing a newbie under the bus with every error made (prob by the seasoned nurse -in my case).

So you left your job and it's all the fault of the seasoned nurses who were mean to you? Bull pucky!

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Rockinlaura said:
Im a LPN with less than 1 year exp, who got out of bedside/floor pt care ALREADY due to the bullying by the seasoned nurses I have worked with. If only I had a preceptor that WANTED to teach me instead of belittling and being condescending but had PATIENCE, I'd be there to help in short staffed situations and have changed nfidence to learn and pick up new skills in aln environment conducive to learning and evolving. I thought vowed to "do no harm" yet seasoned nurses haves harmed me in ways I now want to get out of nursing altogether, even with nursing school loans still to be paid. I've talked to so so many new baby nurses in the same boat, resorting to med pass at prisons to make decent $ bc the prison is better than the bullying from our coworkers! Now that's a sad thought! If you want cheaper, younger, but GOOD nurses to pick up the slack in shortage of coverage, how about start treating the new ones who are hungry to learn with respect instead of making them feel incompetent after doing a skill 3-4 times.?! You might. I amazed at the he takent of a new nurse if given an environment to thrive without mentally sabotaging their efforts. Now it's coming to a head where the nursing shortage wouldn't be that bad if we had seasoned nurses willing to teach us without the bullying. How about fire the bullies but keep the ones willing to pass on their skills to the newbies looking up to them and striving to be a good seasoned nurse WITH A GOOD ATTITUDE (before the attitude gets ruined by all the daily harassment and humiliation) that will get passed down to other newbies and so on instead of throwing a newbie under the bus with every error made (prob by the seasoned nurse -in my case).

I am so sorry you experienced this kind of behavior. It is not acceptable. Unfortunately there are people out there that are not pleasant...but don't let that deter you from finding a job that will teach you. Not all seasoned nurses are like that...I personally have found that those who cannot, or will not, teach actually don't have anything of value to share.

I know this was hard but don't let it deter y9ou from finding a good job.

AMEN! I left hospital nursing 24 years ago for that same reason. Cutting nursing hours and substituting an inexperienced "aid" to help, mandatory overtime and then getting yelled at for putting in overtime! Mandatory "education" meetings after a full night shift. Going from primary care with 2-4 patients according to acuity, to 7-9 patients at night "because everyone sleeps at night" HA! I worked on an OB/GYN floor! I need to go back to work now, and am not really sure I want to.

there is more to nursing than floor nursing. coordination of floors, desk nurse putting in orders and calling me for orders. educators, teachers in private colleges, MDS coordinators. look around there are all kinds of jobs beside floor nursing. Frankly, you probably could not bend over far enough to fit in. do yourself a favor and don't humiliate yourself. go to home nursing, prison nursing or hospice.

This is why I so firmly believe in strong unions. I belong to MNA, one of the strongest nursing unions in the country. I once worked at a non-union hospital and I was scared the whole time. All nurses have the right to unionize, even in Right-to-work states.

Yeah but why pay extortionist level union dues to maybe have the union rep protect your job after you fight for a year or more to be allowed to work again. At that point I seriously wouldn't care and would have found another job. That's the thing, all jobs suck, management everywhere is stupid and fails to serve anyone but themselves and paying $300-$500 out of each $1800 paycheck for "protection" is stupid. If you don't like your work conditions just go down the street and find another job you'll hate in 3 months.

Because of the reason you stated; exploitable, we have to be proactive in our profession. Be aware of what laws and rules being developed in your state. Join a group that do monitor what affects our profession. Numbers matter, the more that are looking/monitoring what does place an effect on Nursing policies and procedures, the better. This helps our patients and our profession!

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
Yeah but why pay extortionist level union dues to maybe have the union rep protect your job after you fight for a year or more to be allowed to work again. At that point I seriously wouldn't care and would have found another job. That's the thing, all jobs suck, management everywhere is stupid and fails to serve anyone but themselves and paying $300-$500 out of each $1800 paycheck for "protection" is stupid. If you don't like your work conditions just go down the street and find another job you'll hate in 3 months.

If that's the kind of union you're exposed to I can understand your opinion. But that's not the norm in my experience. I pay about 1.5% of my gross income in union dues - roughly $800 a year. To me the benefit of being part of the union is worth a LOT more than that. I know I will be treated fairly when it's time to plan a vacation, if I'm injured on the job (or off, doesn't matter) they'll make sure I'm provided support for returning to work safely, that when our working conditions become unsafe they have our backs and will take it all the way to the director if need be, and if I'm unfairly disciplined, they'll represent my interests at all hearings. They also take the pressure off the individual when it's time to negotiate new collective agreements. Our union leaders are paid the same salary as a head nurse on any unit and often work many hours of unpaid overtime to manage the interests of their members. I'm not suggesting our union is perfect, but it's certainly not the demon horde you're describing.

I have been a nurse now for 32 years. I have been a bedside nurse for 20 years. I have seen patients complain they don't get enough attention, I have seen case managers yelling get them discharged long before they are ready. I have seen physicians that are completely rude, arrogant and downright verbally abusive to nurses. Administration does sit behind closed doors and does nothing but figure out how big their next bonus will be. There is no dignity in nursing anymore. There is absolutely no respect. Quick RN schools that charge 120,000 for a ASN are popping up all over. Eager 20 year olds saying this is where the money is not really wanting to be a nurse...but they think the pay is great. They are in for a rude awakening. I was "let go" 2 years ago. After 10 years of service. I am over 50. Another nurse over 60 was let go after 30 years of service. Another nurse 55 was let go. This is all on my DOU floor. The company changed owners. The "new" supervisor was told to clean house. He rode everyone's butts that was over 50. He stated he needed "young moldable fresh ideas nurses" and we were axed. Along with several other deptartments that had employees that gave their last 20 years to this company. some 30 years. Now I am doing per diem work. My household has suffered immensely from my income cut in half to paying 12,000 a year for health insurance. Try to get a staff "RN" job at 60. Good luck. It doesn't happen. All of us "old timers" were replaced with nurses staright out of school. Our experience counts for nothing. Yes I agree RNs are not at all what they used to be. Ive had a long career. 2 hospitals 10 years each, one hospital 5 years and started in the trenches as a CNA then a medical assistant a LVN and a RN learning as I go over the years is unheard of. The physicians in Calif. are all foreigners. They look down on nurses and blame them for their own carelessness and their mistakes. No one will back you up. I hope someday these new nurses stand up for themselves. I see this profession only getting worse

fair housing and employment get a lawyer. I was let go because my doctor put me on light duty 4 weeks before a hi

hip relacement. I live in CA also. I'm suing. the reason they fired me was because the surgery was not work related. how is pregnancy work related. I needed light duty for 4 weeks

too stupid on corporates part. they are in Wisconsin. CA has the strongest work laws in the US. I have a lawyer in southern CA taking my suit.

Well said, and oh so true.