Coronavirus Second Wave?

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The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday, with 29 communities in the sprawling Chinese capital back on lockdown.

Yet again, a coronavirus outbreak in China is linked to a food market ...

This coronavirus resurgence and reaction is worryingly reminiscent of the unprecedented lockdown of Wuhan and the surrounding regions in central China that began in January.

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Beyond Beijing, this new surge is not Asia's only flare-up: Japan's capital city of Tokyo has reported more than 20 new cases havens here day over the past six days.

The surges in two of Asia's biggest capitals serve as a clear warning to America and all other countries: reopening risks reinfection.

Read in its entirety: China races to contain a second wave of coronavirus cases in Beijing

Do you think this will become increasingly problematic?

With the re-opening of the U.S., are we facing a second wave?

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2 hours ago, NormaSaline said:

If the sick man were wearing a KN95 which are plentiful and sold at places like hardware stores, he would be protecting himself to a good extent. Another kind of mask would give him more protection than no mask. Maybe not much more, but some.

Does anyone know of a program to educate vulnerable people regarding this?

Is there an organization to help people obtain these masks?

I doubt many full time nurses have the time and resources to organize such an endeavor.

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You don't seem to understand Medieval history.

On 6/22/2020 at 6:59 PM, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Was this in the 13th century, when our ancestors almost certainly lived and died on farms, weren't dependent on a service-sector economy to maintain their standard of living, and grew their own food vis-à-vis subsistence agriculture?

On 6/23/2020 at 7:07 AM, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Yeah but back then the overwhelming majority of people could survive just fine without trade and service-sector activities.

Trade was essential to survive. I am afraid history won't back you on your statements above. Religious practices were central to their lives and church service was inherent in all they did as death was at the center of life in Medieval time. Illnesses that caused death were communicable via human or flea. Quarantines were a major way to contain small pox or diseases caused by fleas/rats. And since a good many trace their ancestry through Europe, it worked.

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2 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

Does anyone know of a program to educate vulnerable people regarding this?

Is there an organization to help people obtain these masks?

I doubt many full time nurses have the time and resources to organize such an endeavor.

The extent to which our own government has failed in education in this matter is nothing short of tragic, if you ask me. Today I heard a Youtube video with John Campbell, interviewing someone from Israel. I'm going to try to Google PDF their education documents (I'm sure some will be in English) because I bet they're good. Of course, they may not have been following our protocol, but I'll see, as a first step.

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It was not quite possible for me to download this image, so I captured it. This looks like a good flyer, though.

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On 6/22/2020 at 6:59 PM, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Was this in the 13th century, when our ancestors almost certainly lived and died on farms, weren't dependent on a service-sector economy to maintain their standard of living, and grew their own food vis-à-vis subsistence agriculture? Was this when the world had a lot less people altogether, and social distancing was quite possible even in the 'metropolitan areas' of the time?

Because all of that would be impractical in the modern era, let alone in the 21st century.

I am not saying when it was, I am saying we need to change some of our practices obviously. Are we not forced to do it today, right now?

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3 minutes ago, Workitinurfava said:

I am not saying when it was, I am saying we need to change some of our practices obviously. Are we not forced to do it today, right now?

We tried. It didn't work. Time to go back to normal life now.

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Why is it that people and the media talk about the second wave, they always talk about the amount of positive tests increasing. Positive tests do not necessarily correlate to hospitalizations. It would be more informative if they reported the surge in hospitalizations due to the "second wave"which do not seem to be happening.

Every state is different, but taking my state for example (Indiana). We went to Stage 2 on May 4th and had a 3 day moving average of 579 new cases/day. We are currently in Stage 3, heading to Stage 4 in 11 days and we currently have an average of 295 new cases/day and trending down since May 3rd. You would think that as the restrictions are lessened, that you would have a spike instead of a downward trend as the restrictions are lifted. Where is the second wave?

For those that demand my source of the data: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/indiana

There are some states that have gone way overboard on their restrictions, such as Hawaii. They require travelers to self-quarantine for 14 days in their hotel room prior to starting their vacation. They had 9 new cases/day average of Covid yesterday. There are probably more people diagnosed with Melanoma yesterday than Covid in Hawaii and you don't see them having clothing requirements for the beach.

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13 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Why is it that people and the media talk about the second wave, they always talk about the amount of positive tests increasing. Positive tests do not necessarily correlate to hospitalizations. It would be more informative if they reported the surge in hospitalizations due to the "second wave"which do not seem to be happening.

Every state is different, but taking my state for example (Indiana). We went to Stage 2 on May 4th and had a 3 day moving average of 579 new cases/day. We are currently in Stage 3, heading to Stage 4 in 11 days and we currently have an average of 295 new cases/day and trending down since May 3rd. You would think that as the restrictions are lessened, that you would have a spike instead of a downward trend as the restrictions are lifted. Where is the second wave?

For those that demand my source of the data: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/indiana

There are some states that have gone way overboard on their restrictions, such as Hawaii. They require travelers to self-quarantine for 14 days in their hotel room prior to starting their vacation. They had 9 new cases/day average of Covid yesterday. There are probably more people diagnosed with Melanoma yesterday than Covid in Hawaii and you don't see them having clothing requirements for the beach.

AL, FL, TX, AZ no restrictions and increasing numbers and hospitals at max capacity. Just because it's not happening in your area doesn't mean it's not happening at all. It's on the news daily how the numbers are increasing and hospitals are at peak capacity. How do you miss those news briefings?

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25 minutes ago, NICU Guy said:

Why is it that people and the media talk about the second wave, they always talk about the amount of positive tests increasing. Positive tests do not necessarily correlate to hospitalizations. It would be more informative if they reported the surge in hospitalizations due to the "second wave"which do not seem to be happening.

Every state is different, but taking my state for example (Indiana). We went to Stage 2 on May 4th and had a 3 day moving average of 579 new cases/day. We are currently in Stage 3, heading to Stage 4 in 11 days and we currently have an average of 295 new cases/day and trending down since May 3rd. You would think that as the restrictions are lessened, that you would have a spike instead of a downward trend as the restrictions are lifted. Where is the second wave?

For those that demand my source of the data: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/indiana

There are some states that have gone way overboard on their restrictions, such as Hawaii. They require travelers to self-quarantine for 14 days in their hotel room prior to starting their vacation. They had 9 new cases/day average of Covid yesterday. There are probably more people diagnosed with Melanoma yesterday than Covid in Hawaii and you don't see them having clothing requirements for the beach.

Hawaii has done a FANTASTIC job. They are to be envied and modelled.

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@NICU Guy

Indiana is slightly above the US average of deaths per million (nothing to be that proud of in any event). There were 14 deaths yesterday.
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/06/23/indiana-publicly-report-coronavirus

Indiana doesn't require nursing homes to report

Where Are Nursing Home Residents Dying Of COVID-19? In Indiana, It’s Hard To Say
https://www.sideeffectspublicmedia.org/post/where-are-nursing-home-residents-dying-covid-19-indiana-it-s-hard-say

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It’s too late to put Pandora back in the box.

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6 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

We tried. It didn't work. Time to go back to normal life now.

While the cases spike, I stand by what I said.

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