Coronavirus Second Wave?

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The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday, with 29 communities in the sprawling Chinese capital back on lockdown.

Yet again, a coronavirus outbreak in China is linked to a food market ...

This coronavirus resurgence and reaction is worryingly reminiscent of the unprecedented lockdown of Wuhan and the surrounding regions in central China that began in January.

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Beyond Beijing, this new surge is not Asia's only flare-up: Japan's capital city of Tokyo has reported more than 20 new cases havens here day over the past six days.

The surges in two of Asia's biggest capitals serve as a clear warning to America and all other countries: reopening risks reinfection.

Read in its entirety: China races to contain a second wave of coronavirus cases in Beijing

Do you think this will become increasingly problematic?

With the re-opening of the U.S., are we facing a second wave?

On 6/17/2020 at 1:18 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

It sounds like people are ready to get on with the journey toward a couple million American deaths from COVID. So take off your mask...go out...eat, drink, shop...make yourself happy. Or do you require everyone to do as you do to make it work for you? Who is stopping you from behaving exactly as you prefer?

Noting that today's headlines now show the model projecting 240,000 deaths by November, a couple million doesn't seem far away at all. Small wonder they want to close the CDC databases. So much easier than giving a damn and saving lives.

Specializes in LTC.
18 hours ago, Nurse SMS said:

Has your religious beliefs taught you to care for others above yourself? Makes it very simple to do when all that is required is social distancing, wearing a mask and washing your hands I would think. This idea I have seen espoused (which you apparently are not) that "I believe in Jesus and therefore I don't need to comply" line of thinking is.....well. Different from my own.

You have gotten the wrong impression of me. In the first place, I don't belong to any religion. Instead, I surrendered my life to God many years ago and became a Christian after thinking about committing suicide for the second time.

After that, I slowly began to have a more positive attitude, and stopped feeling sorry for myself. Over the years, I gradually became a happy generous individual who (if you will look at my user name) made numurous sacrifices by becoming the only EMT in our ambulance for 10 years, including becoming a CPR and Basic First Aid instructor, and eventually became a nurse while raising 2 children and working 3 jobs. My children have both become professionals with Masters Degrees.

Concerning following rules, Why do you have such a negative impression of me? I apply every single rule concerning this Covid-19 pandemic.

I havn't mentioned anything negative toward you , so why are you being very negative toward me? If you will take the time to look up my profile, you will see a photo with me being presented with an award from this website.

Changing one's attitude from negative to positive really does make a great difference in one's outlook on life, and really does cause one to become more giving, happier, and more hopeful.

Do have a good day.?

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development.
3 hours ago, OldEMTNurse said:

You have gotten the wrong impression of me. In the first place, I don't belong to any religion. Instead, I surrendered my life to God many years ago and became a Christian after thinking about committing suicide for the second time.

After that, I slowly began to have a more positive attitude, and stopped feeling sorry for myself. Over the years, I gradually became a happy generous individual who (if you will look at my user name) made numurous sacrifices by becoming the only EMT in our ambulance for 10 years, including becoming a CPR and Basic First Aid instructor, and eventually became a nurse while raising 2 children and working 3 jobs. My children have both become professionals with Masters Degrees.

Concerning following rules, Why do you have such a negative impression of me? I apply every single rule concerning this Covid-19 pandemic.

I havn't mentioned anything negative toward you , so why are you being very negative toward me? If you will take the time to look up my profile, you will see a photo with me being presented with an award from this website.

Changing one's attitude from negative to positive really does make a great difference in one's outlook on life, and really does cause one to become more giving, happier, and more hopeful.

Do have a good day.?

Please forgive me. I do not feel negatively toward you at all. I do not know you. I am struggling with some others during this pandemic and I admit that fully. You have a good day too. Sincerely.

Specializes in oncology.

This sums it up for me

It is one of the lowest forms of societal interaction to denigrate others with whom you have opposing opinions.

If a young person wants to intentionally catch the virus, develop T cell mediated immunity, and go about their life, who are we to judge?

I survived Covid and I don’t wear a mask anywhere. I’m not afraid of reinfection. If I hadn’t caught it I would likely wear a mask. But the cat is out of the bag for me. What about the other survivors, should we have to wear a mask to make others feel better about themselves? It’s a placebo to control fear.

If you really want to slow the spread of this virus mandate kn-95 masks. That I support. That makes so much more sense.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
17 minutes ago, damiorifice said:

It is one of the lowest forms of societal interaction to denigrate others with whom you have opposing opinions.

If a young person wants to intentionally catch the virus, develop T cell mediated immunity, and go about their life, who are we to judge?

I survived Covid and I don’t wear a mask anywhere. I’m not afraid of reinfection. If I hadn’t caught it I would likely wear a mask. But the cat is out of the bag for me. What about the other survivors, should we have to wear a mask to make others feel better about themselves? It’s a placebo to control fear.

If you really want to slow the spread of this virus mandate kn-95 masks. That I support. That makes so much more sense.

https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/risk-coronavirus-reinfection-remains-after-recovery

I'm a nurse and science tells me otherwise. Where are all these fabulous T cells for HIV patients, immunocomprised patients, old people, people with cancer? How do they protect themselves from people who won't wear masks? I saw a anti-masker on a video bend over an cough into the face of an infant. D., I don't think you are a sociopath but they are everywhere so why not just be safer?

Specializes in oncology.
1 hour ago, damiorifice said:

It is one of the lowest forms of societal interaction to denigrate others with whom you have opposing opinions.

Get a grip...and follow your own principles.

Although I said nothing regarding survivors specifically and was never talking about you - you chose to denigrate me and my opposing opinion.

1 hour ago, damiorifice said:

What about the other survivors, should we have to wear a mask to make others feel better about themselves? It’s a placebo to control fear.

What about your plans for nursing school? It doesn't look like herd immunity is on the horizon and we need to subdue this virus.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cb-coronavirus-covid-herd-immunity-explained-20200717-jr2waugpzzgmhof4pazrclfe5q-story.html

PS sometimes humor can get a point across better than all the preaching in the world and I believe the only way we are going to get the economy going, children back in school and everyone employed is if we all work together.

1 hour ago, subee said:

https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/risk-coronavirus-reinfection-remains-after-recovery

I'm a nurse and science tells me otherwise. Where are all these fabulous T cells for HIV patients, immunocomprised patients, old people, people with cancer? How do they protect themselves from people who won't wear masks? I saw a anti-masker on a video bend over an cough into the face of an infant. D., I don't think you are a sociopath but they are everywhere so why not just be safer?

HIV infects helper T cells preventing them from becoming memory T cells, effectively hijacking and destroying the theta cell aspect of our immune systems. That’s why you eventually die of another illness. Immunocompromised people can self isolate and use grocery pick up. You can’t punish the whole country because a few crazy people cough on infants. Those sickos should be jailed.

40 minutes ago, londonflo said:

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What about your plans for nursing school? It doesn't look like herd immunity is on the horizon and we need to subdue this virus.

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Herd immunity remains to be seen. I am hopeful for a vaccine based on the most recent results; a robust immune response with beta and theta cells present after the booster. Very good indeed.

I have no problem wearing a mask during clinicals. Just part of the uniform to me. I have a problem with people being forced to wear inadequate protection giving them the illusion that they are protected, which leads to them ignoring social distancing, hand washing, etc. people are stupid as sheep mostly, and they are dumb enough to think a cloth mask equates total protection. The government should be mass producing kn-95 masks and giving them away free.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
30 minutes ago, damiorifice said:

HIV infects helper T cells preventing them from becoming memory T cells, effectively hijacking and destroying the theta cell aspect of our immune systems. That’s why you eventually die of another illness. Immunocompromised people can self isolate and use grocery pick up. You can’t punish the whole country because a few crazy people cough on infants. Those sickos should be jailed.

Wearing a mask during a national public health crisis is not a punishment. What sort of thinking IS that?

Specializes in oncology.
48 minutes ago, damiorifice said:

I have no problem wearing a mask during clinicals

Interesting that you will wear one when it is in your own best interest to wear one. Mask wearing in the hospital is to prevent you from acquiring the infection, like MRSA, C.Diff etc

Of the 4 nursing programs in the city I live, all ended up doing virtual clinicals from March through June. From what I have read on AN the norm was the cancellation of in-person clinicals. The major reason for canceling was the lack of PPE equipment, which, to my knowledge is still a problem. Also since students may be slower at completing tasks and procedures on a patient, the hospitals were cautious about the increased time a student would be present in the room. Anyhow, in most programs, students still begin to learn skills on mannequins but actually adding in all the differences in a non-controlled environment guarantees skill acquisition.

48 minutes ago, damiorifice said:

I have a problem with people being forced to wear inadequate protection giving them the illusion that they are protected,

Here is an interesting article from UCSF

https://www.UCSF.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Reading the full article of course is best but here is one finding:

"There is a significant decline in daily COVID-19 growth rate after mandating facial covers in public, with the effect increasing over time after signing the order."

48 minutes ago, damiorifice said:

which leads to them ignoring social distancing, hand washing, etc. people are stupid as sheep mostly, and they are dumb enough to think a cloth mask equates total protection. 

As I recall, frequent hand washing and the use of hand sanitizers have been consistently mentioned as important for everyone. Remember the hand sanitizer shortage?

48 minutes ago, damiorifice said:

The government should be mass producing kn-95 masks and giving them away free.

But if you can't get the public to wear a soft comfortable mask of their own choice, would they agree to a kn-95? From what I have read here and on other social media, the major reason people are not wearing masks is because they object to government requirements impeding their rights.

When you choose to be a health care professional, it is your obligation (not a burden) to promote health behaviors. If you do not accept the need for patient education as identified by infection control professionals, public health departments, CDC and WHO, you may experience a reality shock, cognitive dissonance, and dissatisfaction with your occupational choice.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
4 hours ago, damiorifice said:

Herd immunity remains to be seen. I am hopeful for a vaccine based on the most recent results; a robust immune response with beta and theta cells present after the booster. Very good indeed.

I have no problem wearing a mask during clinicals. Just part of the uniform to me. I have a problem with people being forced to wear inadequate protection giving them the illusion that they are protected, which leads to them ignoring social distancing, hand washing, etc. people are stupid as sheep mostly, and they are dumb enough to think a cloth mask equates total protection. The government should be mass producing kn-95 masks and giving them away free.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/15/coronavirus-mask-shortage-texas-manufacturing/

Mike Bowen warned the government years ago and every year since. No takers.

6 hours ago, damiorifice said:

It is one of the lowest forms of societal interaction to denigrate others with whom you have opposing opinions.

If a young person wants to intentionally catch the virus, develop T cell mediated immunity, and go about their life, who are we to judge?

I survived Covid and I don’t wear a mask anywhere. I’m not afraid of reinfection. If I hadn’t caught it I would likely wear a mask. But the cat is out of the bag for me. What about the other survivors, should we have to wear a mask to make others feel better about themselves? It’s a placebo to control fear.

If you really want to slow the spread of this virus mandate kn-95 masks. That I support. That makes so much more sense.

https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/risk-coronavirus-reinfection-remains-after-recovery

I'm a nurse and science tells me otherwise. Where are all these fabulous T cells for HIV patients, immunocomprised patients, old people, people with cancer? How do they protect themselves from people who won't wear masks? I saw a anti-masker on a video bend over an cough into the face of an infant. D., I don't think you are a sociopath but they are everywhere so why not just be safer?

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