Coronavirus Second Wave?

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The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday, with 29 communities in the sprawling Chinese capital back on lockdown.

Yet again, a coronavirus outbreak in China is linked to a food market ...

This coronavirus resurgence and reaction is worryingly reminiscent of the unprecedented lockdown of Wuhan and the surrounding regions in central China that began in January.

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Beyond Beijing, this new surge is not Asia's only flare-up: Japan's capital city of Tokyo has reported more than 20 new cases havens here day over the past six days.

The surges in two of Asia's biggest capitals serve as a clear warning to America and all other countries: reopening risks reinfection.

Read in its entirety: China races to contain a second wave of coronavirus cases in Beijing

Do you think this will become increasingly problematic?

With the re-opening of the U.S., are we facing a second wave?

On 7/6/2020 at 9:16 PM, NurseBlaq said:

Obviously. With no end in site. But the Republican Party got to spend their hated middle class "entitlements' on their donors via PPP so all's well right? Pay no attention to the 2.5M death trajectory.

14 hours ago, damiorifice said:

you might want to wait before lighting the celebratory candles considering as for now it's not even in hypothesis state.

1 hour ago, JennyBear said:

you might want to wait before lighting the celebratory candles considering as for now it's not even in hypothesis state.

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Potent memory T cell responses were therefore elicited in the absence or presence of circulating antibodies, consistent with a non-redundant role as key determinants of immune protection against COVID-19 (Chandrashekar et al., 2020).

It bodes well. It also explains why infected people are losing their antibodies but not ending up hospitalized again upon reinfection. It certainly would explain a lot.

4 hours ago, JennyBear said:

you might want to wait before lighting the celebratory candles considering as for now it's not even in hypothesis state.

This was a study, not an experiment.

On 6/17/2020 at 2:14 PM, juniper222 said:

We may have herd immunity as our only option if we can get this under control. But that will be at a cost.

given the antibodies are only present up to 3 months, it would make sense not to stake millions upon millons of lives on "herd immunity" which I daresay is being thrown around buzz style by people who couldn't pass a simple statistical science exam were their very lives dependent upon doing so.

On 7/10/2020 at 11:21 PM, juniper222 said:

This was a study, not an experiment.

making it all the more preposterous to have alleged clinicians promoting it as a save all.

6 hours ago, OinksNemisis said:

given the antibodies are only present up to 3 months, it would make sense not to stake millions upon millons of lives on "herd immunity" which I daresay is being thrown around buzz style by people who couldn't pass a simple statistical science exam were their very lives dependent upon doing so.

making it all the more preposterous to have alleged clinicians promoting it as a save all.

1.) That first post was a month ago when we knew much less than we do now ,and was speculative in nature.

2.) Your petty insults are indicative of a shallow mind.

3.) Those "alleged clinicians" are more qualified than you in this subject and it was not promoted as a "save all".

On 6/17/2020 at 10:00 AM, Emergent said:

I think the virus is here to stay. We, in the first world, have gotten used to such a high standard a care that it shocks us to see vulnerable people taken out by a virus.

Of course, throughout human history people have died of diseases. This virus would probably have gone unnoticed 100 yrs ago. Old people dying was not considered abnormal back then.

I think that the population of the United States is generally in bad shape. The level of health is poor. People don't exercise enough and eat so much processed food, leading to metabolic disorders and obesity. These conditions leave our population very vulnerable to this covid-19.

I don't think it's practical to shut down economies until a vaccine is developed. The plan to even reopen the schools here in Washington state is ridiculous. The vaccine could be years down the road.

I think that we need to get out of our first world bubble and accept the fact that we live in a world with no guarantees. Vulnerable people need to take responsibility for their own health. Those are the people who should be on pandemic unemployment. Meanwhile, don't destroy the economy that we all rely on for our livelihoods. Let herd immunity begin sooner rather than later.

Wait Wait. I thought it was going to be gone by April and then fade away in the Summer? Now we have to just "live with it". Well, I guess those who can't afford their own private medical team and ICU unit, have access to indefinite amounts of fresh IMGG, nor have everyone we come in contact with tested in advance and the bathroom sanitized before each use ...

Nope, that's the "Presidents' life, but don't worry, you got a magic red hat for selling out the country.

5 minutes ago, PGrabby said:

Wait Wait. I thought it was going to be gone by April and then fade away in the Summer? Now we have to just "live with it". Well, I guess those who can't afford their own private medical team and ICU unit, have access to indefinite amounts of fresh IMGG, nor have everyone we come in contact with tested in advance and the bathroom sanitized before each use ...

Nope, that's the "Presidents' life, but don't worry, you got a magic red hat for selling out the country.

All of our oligarchs enjoy that life. Don’t think for a minute that we plebeians have anything in common with these millionaires and billionaires who pretend to dance along party lines that are an illusion to divide the people and keep them from seeing that they have been fleeced and drawn down into serfdom just as in he Middle Ages. At less then they were more open about it.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
12 hours ago, damiorifice said:

All of our oligarchs enjoy that life. Don’t think for a minute that we plebeians have anything in common with these millionaires and billionaires who pretend to dance along party lines that are an illusion to divide the people and keep them from seeing that they have been fleeced and drawn down into serfdom just as in he Middle Ages. At less then they were more open about it.

I remember the rush of the top 1% to buy their own ventilators in March in NYC. None of the companies admitted to caving in to personal demands but do I believe that? Uh....no.

Specializes in LTC.
On 7/2/2020 at 6:07 PM, NurseBlaq said:

I didn't take it as you meaning harm. I was just expanding on why I think people are fearful. I'm afraid of corona because of my medical issues but I still go out, I just use precautions.

I understand. It's just that since I have already arrested due to my multiple life-threatening issues, it has taught me not to fear. Dying is just falling asleep, and if one has surrendered his or her life over to our Savior, Who has given an everlasting wonderful future after death of the flesh, (just like a worm after it has shed its pupa and has emerged as a beautiful butterfly), we have a great future to look forward to.

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development.
2 hours ago, OldEMTNurse said:

I understand. It's just that since I have already arrested due to my multiple life-threatening issues, it has taught me not to fear. Dying is just falling asleep, and if one has surrendered his or her life over to our Savior, Who has given an everlasting wonderful future after death of the flesh, (just like a worm after it has shed its pupa and has emerged as a beautiful butterfly), we have a great future to look forward to.

Has your religious beliefs taught you to care for others above yourself? Makes it very simple to do when all that is required is social distancing, wearing a mask and washing your hands I would think. This idea I have seen espoused (which you apparently are not) that "I believe in Jesus and therefore I don't need to comply" line of thinking is.....well. Different from my own.

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