Coronavirus Second Wave?

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The new coronavirus outbreak in Beijing grew to 106 cases Tuesday, with 29 communities in the sprawling Chinese capital back on lockdown.

Yet again, a coronavirus outbreak in China is linked to a food market ...

This coronavirus resurgence and reaction is worryingly reminiscent of the unprecedented lockdown of Wuhan and the surrounding regions in central China that began in January.

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Beyond Beijing, this new surge is not Asia's only flare-up: Japan's capital city of Tokyo has reported more than 20 new cases havens here day over the past six days.

The surges in two of Asia's biggest capitals serve as a clear warning to America and all other countries: reopening risks reinfection.

Read in its entirety: China races to contain a second wave of coronavirus cases in Beijing

Do you think this will become increasingly problematic?

With the re-opening of the U.S., are we facing a second wave?

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7 hours ago, damiorifice said:

In deference to my apparent apathy I have complex ptsd and am a sexual assault survivor, worked in high security prisons, and was in the military. Just because I appear cold does not mean that I do not feel compassion for others who are hurting, or strive in life to help ease the suffering of others. Quite the opposite really. That doesn’t change that his point made sense rationally. Just as it made sense as a combat medic that we were trained to walk by those screaming for help if we knew there was no chance of survival and to focus our efforts on those who could survive. Cold rationality has its place in life. Idealism doesn’t save lives. Rationality saves lives.

My husband was glad to postpone elective surgery so hospitals could care for those already sick and injured.

I think IF the field hospital could provide safe, effective, therapeutic medical and nursing care, AND it were certain there wouldn't soon be an influx of very sick people it could be OK.

I don't think it is a good idea to act in a way that may require battlefield level triage in the United States unless, God forbid, there is another war on our soil.

Tammy's fellow soldiers thought she was dead. The thought they were recovering the body. Then in the air they saw that she was bleeding and that meant her heart was beating.

In my 42 years of nursing I've been blessed to witness a few miracle patients too.

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The day Capt. Tammy Duckworth was shot down

... "I looked over at CPT Duckworth and saw her slumped forward against the instrument panel," he wrote in his report. "I saw that she was unconscious and had black residue on her face." He thought she was dead...

... "I go to these events and people stand up and they applaud," said Duckworth,who was just elected to her second term in Congress. "And I'm like: Look, I just got shot down and I passed out from blood loss. And I would be dead if these guys had not been there to take care of me. Or I would be dead if they had made a different decision, which was to not recover the body. And they chose to spend extra time on the ground to get me out of there."...

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141111/news/141119904/

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141111/news/141119763

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38 minutes ago, londonflo said:

We have enough beds and health care providers to care for all

We clearly don't...

38 minutes ago, londonflo said:

I have little regard for his values and find him repulsive although I would provide a hospital bed and care to him if he should find himself sick.

Gee thanks!

3 hours ago, londonflo said:

I did not call you "cold".

Oh, I was implying ahitwiththeladies was cold. I do have flattened effect, but I see that everyone no matter what kind of monster they might be has inherent worth. Everyone deserves love, especially the unlovable.

Conversely this virus situation seems to be about mitigating losses. I lean toward believing the peripheral effects of attempting to mitigate spread of the virus outweigh the cost of life that will be involved in achieving herd immunity. Consider the long term impact of thrusting a large swath of society into poverty. How many lost lives? How much chaos? How many children robbed of a future?

‘I also see that the collective will of the people will not tolerate more lockdown. But to each their own. We are all entitled to our opinions. People can only managed, not controlled.

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22 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

It's a shame Gov. Abbott shut down non-elective surgeries. He should have held firm on this. Best thing to do is to allocate a certain percentage of beds at each hospital for COVID patients, and tell any further admits, "Sorry, we are full, but there's a makeshift field hospital at a stadium in our city you can go to".

Once some of these patients with a bad cough see the amenities at the stadium, they may just decide they can recover at home and drive home.

We'll get through this Corona stuff. It's time to flush it out of our system for once and for all. It'll spike for a few weeks and then we'll have herd immunity for once and for all. Then nobody is going to want to utter a word about the Corona any longer because it's time to move on from the endless Corona soap opera.

You must not be reading the literature because NYC and Sweden achieved their "herd" immunity only in the single digits making your argument fallacious. If only it were so predictable:(

18 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

We clearly don't...

Gee thanks!

But how do they really feel? Rofl

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I saw a news clip yesterday stating that patits are now begging to not be placed on a ventilator. They are afraid they will die while on it. As a veteran of being on a vent twice due to respiratory failure, I can attest that vents will help patients breathe better if they are not already on their way out anyway.

On 6/30/2020 at 12:08 PM, OldEMTNurse said:

I saw a news clip yesterday stating that patits are now begging to not be placed on a ventilator. They are afraid they will die while on it. As a veteran of being on a vent twice due to respiratory failure, I can attest that vents will help patients breathe better if they are not already on their way out anyway.

I think MSM talking about it nonstop has made people fear for their lives. They have to realize that there are a lot of nonmedical people who don't understand so they're afraid. It's also not helpful to have medical professionals on different channels basically canceling each other out. For example, some are saying wear masks while others say they're not necessary. People are confused.

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21 hours ago, NurseBlaq said:

I think MSM talking about it nonstop has made people fear for their lives. They have to realize that there are a lot of nonmedical people who don't understand so they're afraid. It's also not helpful to have medical professionals on different channels basically canceling each other out. For example, some are saying wear masks while others say they're not necessary. People are confused.

Understandable. to clarify, My respitory failures were due to the respiratory disease I still suffer from, and is why I mentioned it. I worked with 2 different types of glue making phonograph needles many years ago, when there were no warnings on the containers. Long before I became a medical professional. That is why I have my breathing disease. I was only trying to encourage the frightened public to not be so fearful. I apologize if I caused confusion. I meant no harm.

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You must not be reading the literature because NYC and Sweden achieved their ”herd” immunity only in single digits making your argument fallacious. If only it were so predictable:(



https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown

Early days yet, but perhaps promising. (Hasn’t been peer reviewed yet).

I’ve had problems including links so if it doesn’t work for you the title if you want to Google it is: ”Robust T cell immunity in convalescent individuals with asymtomatic or mild Covid-19

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5 minutes ago, macawake said:


https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown

Early days yet, but perhaps promising. (Hasn’t been peer reviewed yet).

I’ve had problems including links so if it doesn’t work for you the title if you want to Google it is: ”Robust T cell immunity in convalescent individuals with asymtomathic or mild Covid-19

Yes. It still isn't clear what that immunity represents in terms of protection from illness or in terms of duration of immunity.

I’ve read that COVID-19 may be provoking T-cell mediated immunity which would explain the rapid decline in antibodies without vast reinfection. That would be deeply encouraging.

2 hours ago, OldEMTNurse said:

Understandable. to clarify, My respitory failures were due to the respiratory disease I still suffer from, and is why I mentioned it. I worked with 2 different types of glue making phonograph needles many years ago, when there were no warnings on the containers. Long before I became a medical professional. That is why I have my breathing disease. I was only trying to encourage the frightened public to not be so fearful. I apologize if I caused confusion. I meant no harm.

I didn't take it as you meaning harm. I was just expanding on why I think people are fearful. I'm afraid of corona because of my medical issues but I still go out, I just use precautions.

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