I just got accepted to the nursing program at my school. I've been there for about year doing the pre-req's and got accepted for Summer entry!
Part of the requirements clinical is to get all my vaccinations up to date and a TB test.
I'm not a believer in vaccinations. I filled out the paper work to attend college in the first place without getting vaccinated. At the time they called it a religious exception, so while that wasn't the reason I went with it because they didn't ask any more questions.
I'm just not interested in being injected with all the extra crap in the vaccine. The preservatives, the mercury and all the other junk. The high levels of failure of the vaccine as well as the toxins in the vaccines.
This is not a discussion about vaccines and anti-vaxers... this is about my clinical application to nursing school. I understand the hospitals want it because of our exposure to patients but I simply don't want that crap in my body.
Is there a way to get out of the vaccinations for my clinical?
Again no debate on why... I just want to know about possibilities to still enter my clinical without the vaccines.
Why don't you read some evidence-based research on vaccines? Look at peer-reviewed journals. You might also pursue some rigorous science education. Until, then, I would say it might be best to hold off pursuing nursing. It seems to me that your prerequisite studies have not given you much of a foundation in terms of science or pursuit of data related to it.
I felt my comment above was too flippant. I edited it as follows, but had to post it below separately. I am sorry about the flippancy. I hope the below helps.
Your statements regarding vaccines reflect misinformation, which is most disturbing, especially in someone wishing to go into nursing. Why don't you read some evidence-based research on vaccines? Look at peer-reviewed journals. Do note that a study that caused a lot of trouble was by Wakefield and published in the Lancet. It was subsequently retracted and determined to be fraudulent. --That happened decades ago, but unfortunately misinformation is entrenched in our society.
I had titers done and then had vaccines for the remaining items. Per my experience, you will not be able to attend clinicals. I also find it disturbing that you lack a strong foundation in science as well as ways to research it. --We strive for evidence-based practice in nursing. Your statements reflect lack of knowledge and lack of evidence. Additionally, vaccines are needed, as others mention, to protect others around you, in addition to yourself. Many patients are immunocompromised.
Please do additional reading and educate yourself.
I just got accepted to the nursing program at my school. I've been there for about year doing the pre-req's and got accepted for Summer entry!
Part of the requirements clinical is to get all my vaccinations up to date and a TB test.
I'm not a believer in vaccinations. I filled out the paper work to attend college in the first place without getting vaccinated. At the time they called it a religious exception, so while that wasn't the reason I went with it because they didn't ask any more questions.
I'm just not interested in being injected with all the extra crap in the vaccine. The preservatives, the mercury and all the other junk. The high levels of failure of the vaccine as well as the toxins in the vaccines.
This is not a discussion about vaccines and anti-vaxers... this is about my clinical application to nursing school. I understand the hospitals want it because of our exposure to patients but I simply don't want that crap in my body.
Is there a way to get out of the vaccinations for my clinical?
Again no debate on why... I just want to know about possibilities to still enter my clinical without the vaccines.
Thanks,
John
Thankfully for your patients, you will not be allowed in nursing school.
Nursing school is unto itself, totally different from the rest of the college, a world unto itself. What might be acceptable until this point ends at the nursing school door. You play by their rules or you don't play.
Specializes in Quality Control,Long Term Care, Psych, UM, CM.
If you're worried about preservatives in your body, I hope you don't eat any processed foods or go out to eat. I'm sure you cook everything from scratch and make all your own body products. I'm also pretty sure you don't take any other meds since those can fail as well and have preservatives in them as well.
You can get into nursing school, they will be more than happy to take your money. You will not be able to get into clinical or even get a job after graduation. I would be enraged if I was a patient and I found out my nurse was willingly not vaccinated. This is putting your sick patients at risk for all types of diseases. You have to clinical rotations in L/D. You would be around infants that have not been vaccinated for anything yet. You would do rotations in oncology. You will be putting those patients at risk.
If you don't "believe" in medical care, then I'm wondering why you want to be a nurse. There will be too many sick/immunocompromised patients, I just don't understand why people want to put them at risk.
And for the record, I'm not keen on all the vaccines kids must get now. I do think it's too many too close together. And I never get the flu shot. But they save lives. Yours and those around you.
My guess is that you've been lucky and never had a disease that could be prevented with vaccines. Just on another post I was saying how I had german measles when I was a kid. I also had whooping cough as an adult. These could be prevented easily. I was thinking I was going to die when I had whooping cough. It's a horrible disease. And there's worse out there.
Of course, it's your right if you dont want vaccines. But nursing is not the field for you. There are too many people that can get something you're carrying and they will die.
And for the record, I'm not keen on all the vaccines kids must get now. I do think it's too many too close together. And I never get the flu shot. But they save lives. Yours and those around you.
The vaccines that children get nowadays have only a fraction of the antigens that children received in past vaccines, even though they get more vaccines. So there is no validity to the concern that kids get exposed to to many vaccines in too small a time window. Not only that, antigen load has not been shown to adversely affect neuropsychological outcomes anyway. If it did, that would have manifested in children immunized in the 60s-90's, when they were exposed to far more antigens in the vaccines of the day.
Well you have a clear answer from people here on the forum and I agree with them. Nursing is not for you. Your ideology is not compatible with the clinical world. Unless you have a major mind shift, the healthcare culture would be miserable for you. I think you should really examine why you are going into nursing in the first place. If you aren't happy with your professional choice of teaching, there are a multitude of other career paths to follow.
Your career path is at odds with the reality of nursing, what it is, what it means, and what will be expected of you. Do yourself (and potential patients) a favor and do not go into nursing. Don't. Look into another field of work and see how many of your credits will go towards a different degree. Someone who doesn't believe in science-based medicine has no business being a nurse.
With every admission during the flu season, I am required to ask if the patient has had the flu shot. If not, I encourage them to get it. For many, getting the flu shot could save their life. Are you able to recommend the flu shot? If not, you will be aiding in their death.
And I run across patients all the time who I learn days later had some communicable disease. If I was not vaccinated, I may spread that disease to patients whose immune systems can not handle another assault.
So, even if there was a way around the requirement, are you ready to potentially kill people due to your “belief”? If you can’t think beyond yourself for vaccines, you should consider a career outside of healthcare.
Maybe we need to find a better way to educate the public about vaccines. Years ago the media found it appropriate to show piece, after piece, after piece of people claiming vaccines caused autism and how their child would not have it if they had only NOT been vaccinated. Look, I’m sorry your child has autism, but the vaccine is not to blame here.
Fast forward and we hear about outbreaks of diseases that were practically nonexistent in the US 20 years ago....but not nearly as much airtime is spent educating the public about why and how vaccines are essential to reduce the spread of these horrible but usually preventable (with vaccination) illnesses.
My husband had measles as a child. He remembers not being able to catch his breath and a cough that wouldn’t stop. He remembers being a child and not knowing if he would get better.
My friend’s dad was 39 and traveled to Los Vegas is the early 90s for his honeymoon. He spent the majority of it on an extended stay trip to a Nevada ICU suite where he was diagnosed with chicken pox. He had pox that were rupturing in his lungs.
Ask either of these two people if the vaccine were available would they have received it? The answer is yes, but they didn’t exist back then so they instead were exposed and infected. Both of these people were otherwise healthy individuals. Imagine how bad it could have been for them if they were not.
Now I have patients who find out they are nonimmune and refuse the vaccine. Why? Because they think that since they are not in large crowds or around “sick people” that they won’t catch the illness. They believe the hype about the risks of vaccines and don’t want the vaccine because it “will cause more harm than if not getting it”. Changing their view is practically impossible. I point out that a person does not have to be symptomatic to spread the disease but heck, I’m just a nurse, what on earth do I know? I’m only trying to scare them with the possible birth defects that viruses can cause if they get pregnant and then contract the virus rather than getting a vaccine and using contraception for a month to prevent it all together (sadly, more sarcasm).
....I guess I shouldn’t have been concerned when I worked over night at a retail store and one of my few (maybe ten) co workers tested positive for TB, had an active case, and was being treated because I was at home when I wasn’t at work and wasn’t in large crowds (sarcasm). I know there’s no vaccine for TB, but there is a test for exposure and treatment. Apparently the retailer thought it was enough of a threat because they had a representative from the health department there at the being of our shift to brief us on our exposure and test us all to see if we were infected. They also came back at a later date to retest because we were all working with one person who was actively infected before she found out her coughing up blood and night sweats was TB.
I just got accepted to the nursing program at my school. I've been there for about year doing the pre-req's and got accepted for Summer entry!
Part of the requirements clinical is to get all my vaccinations up to date and a TB test.
I'm not a believer in vaccinations. I filled out the paper work to attend college in the first place without getting vaccinated. At the time they called it a religious exception, so while that wasn't the reason I went with it because they didn't ask any more questions.
I'm just not interested in being injected with all the extra crap in the vaccine. The preservatives, the mercury and all the other junk. The high levels of failure of the vaccine as well as the toxins in the vaccines.
This is not a discussion about vaccines and anti-vaxers... this is about my clinical application to nursing school. I understand the hospitals want it because of our exposure to patients but I simply don't want that crap in my body.
Is there a way to get out of the vaccinations for my clinical?
Again no debate on why... I just want to know about possibilities to still enter my clinical without the vaccines.
Thanks,
John
Then please...for the Love of God...DON'T GO TO NURSING SCHOOL.
Your unfounded, conspiracy theory, inaccurate bias will spill over into advice you give to patients and will ultimately reflect in poor care. If you won't accept widespread EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICE (which is the backbone of nursing) in one area, you won't accept it anything else.
There are enough conspiracy theories going around in healthcare. Don't be part of the problem.
You have the right to not choose to be vaccinated and I think employers and schools should also have the right to reject you.
By law...you may be permitted to go to school, but the clinical sites have the right to reject you.
RNfaster
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Why don't you read some evidence-based research on vaccines? Look at peer-reviewed journals. You might also pursue some rigorous science education. Until, then, I would say it might be best to hold off pursuing nursing. It seems to me that your prerequisite studies have not given you much of a foundation in terms of science or pursuit of data related to it.