The choice to not take the COVID vaccine I feel is not defendable. The facts are that 99% of hospitalizations/deaths due to COVID are unvaccinated patients currently. This has caused a more severe strain on a already extremely stressed hospital staff, shortage of equipment and services, injury and death from other causes due to delay of care and suffering of everyone involved in the hospitalized COVID patient among other issues. Virologists report delta and other strains are accelerated and created due to the numbers of unvaccinated people in the US. The fact that vaccination rates have only increased about 20% since July with the information available is appalling, while there are 130k new infections daily in the US. This should not be a personal or individual choice and appears due to unfounded anxiety, medical or religious exception and or politics.
On another note our very flawed for profit health system run by greed etc probably will stop paying for unvaccinated patients hospitalizations. A single bag of TPN is $1000, same for a six pack of platelets so a one month stay could average 200k that the insurance companies and hospitals could go after their estate or if the patient survives whatever assets they can get.
I don't think that is going to happen but that does bring up a good point. The high cost of the unvaccinated that get sick and who pays. With he unvaccinated taking up most of the critical care beds and sick beds, the cost is enormous.
Sooner or later you have to wonder that the insured unvaccinated is going to get some pushback from the insurance companies and their high cost of care should they get covid. Between public programs, medicare, insurance the system is really being strained and unsustainable.
a well written, nuanced explanation to the vaccine hesitant.
Nuanced ?
Is it bad that I completely empathize with the author’s emotions?
Presenting anti-vaxxers with scientific facts never seems to work. Perhaps this can at least stir their emotions a bit and start some kind of process… If not, at least it was cathartic.
Are patients/insurance companies really charged $1000foronebag of TPN? How much do they cost for hospital facilities to buy?
Living in a country with universal healthcare I am constantly shocked by how much medications cost in the US and how much patients are charged. It’s sick. I didn’t know how much TPN costs here, but your post made me look it up. There are many different sizes but for example four bags, each containing 2053 ml (1900 kcal) costs the equivalent of USD 220. So that’s $55perbag. And you can be certain that the pharmaceutical companies still make a handsome profit even at these much lower prices.
I had a fellow nurse the other day explain to me that the Covid vaccines are all tied into the fact that Covid was invented to facilitate Child trafficking because the 'elites' harvest adrenochrome from children to use as a sort of youth serum, and that Fauci is one of 'the worst' of these child traffickers. And for good measure threw in the claim that the ship that got stuck in the Suez canal was Hillary Clinton's personal child trafficking ship, which was so obvious because her secret service code name was "Evergreen", and the ship had the word "Evergreen" painted on the side. "It was so obvious" as she pointed out.
How do these crazy people actually manage to function in a medical professional setting?
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25 minutes ago, macawake said:
How do these crazy people actually manage to function in a medical professional setting?
Under normal circumstances I find such people highly entertaining the problem is we are not under normal circumstances. Still there is evolutionary process at work with regard to the unvaccinated and as the big thinkers in NASA say it’s Mother nature’s self correction of an over populated Unsustainable earth. It may be too little to late but NASA is looking at planets to terraform. I am totally serious.
How do these crazy people actually manage to function in a medical professional setting?
These crazy people manage to get elected into public office as well. Granted, most of them are actually not but they tailor their rhetoric to get support from the true lunatics.
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On 9/7/2021 at 11:34 PM, NurseSpeedy said:
My 11 year old realized they’re following the Greek alphabet for naming variants-one is pronounced a way that will not be accepted by many-let’s hope we don’t get that far down the alphabet….and if an 11 year old called it out you know someone else will too…
I'm coming up blank - which letter are you referring to?
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22 hours ago, hherrn said:
This is a well written, nuanced explanation to the vaccine hesitant.
I believe the author may have used a word that could violate terms of service, but I don't think posting the link violates TOS. And, as an educator, I can tell you it is important to use language the learner can relate to.
Ha! I KNEW that was the article before I even clicked on it! I read that out loud to my wife yesterday. It has one of my very favorite words in the English language (as evidenced by the fact that so many of my posts here have **** in them).
Is it bad that I completely empathize with the author’s emotions?
Presenting anti-vaxxers with scientific facts never seems to work. Perhaps this can at least stir their emotions a bit and start some kind of process… If not, at least it was cathartic.
I laughed for the entire 4 minutes I spent reading that article!
The choice to not take the COVID vaccine I feel is not defendable. The facts are that 99% of hospitalizations/deaths due to COVID are unvaccinated patients currently. This has caused a more severe strain on a already extremely stressed hospital staff, shortage of equipment and services, injury and death from other causes due to delay of care and suffering of everyone involved in the hospitalized COVID patient among other issues. Virologists report delta and other strains are accelerated and created due to the numbers of unvaccinated people in the US. The fact that vaccination rates have only increased about 20% since July with the information available is appalling, while there are 130k new infections daily in the US. This should not be a personal or individual choice and appears due to unfounded anxiety, medical or religious exception and or politics.
People possess an infinite capacity to rationalize and thus have a million excuses to not see that vaccination is the decent thing to do. I've heard that they use fetal cell an I don't want to encourage abortion. 5 out of 7 vaccines didn't in development or production. I've heard people say that the odds of dying are so low that they'll take their chances. You might not die, but you could be in for a very painful very long ride. I've heard people who in the past have hated Gloria Steinem quoting her. I've seen people using maximum protective barriers think that they don't need the vax. This virus is here to stay. Thinking that you can protect yourself 24/7 for the next 50 years is a bit naïve. I've heard conspiracy theories by the dozen.
You can't reason with people who have decided that they are right and have chosen the hill upon which they are ready to make their stand.
Everyone wants to think that they are a sheep dog and not a sheep while this latest surge could be called "The Run of the Lemmings." Yep! right off that cliff!
Pres Biden has a six prong plan to combat the covid virus including mandatory vaccinations for all federal workers without option of regular testing and glad.
The choice to not take the COVID vaccine I feel is not defendable. The facts are that 99% of hospitalizations/deaths due to COVID are unvaccinated patients currently. This has caused a more severe strain on a already extremely stressed hospital staff, shortage of equipment and services, injury and death from other causes due to delay of care and suffering of everyone involved in the hospitalized COVID patient among other issues. Virologists report delta and other strains are accelerated and created due to the numbers of unvaccinated people in the US. The fact that vaccination rates have only increased about 20% since July with the information available is appalling, while there are 130k new infections daily in the US. This should not be a personal or individual choice and appears due to unfounded anxiety, medical or religious exception and or politics.
I'll take it a step further.
Human beings are indefensible.
We are too codependent on each other, our need to be served, and inability to be self sufficient to do the one thing that would really get rid of the virus which is for EVERYONE to stay home for weeks and let it die off.
That's right I said it. And you probably think it's crazy.
Because how would the hospitals stay open? How would police and fireman stay at work? Who would keep the power on for Netflix? Who's going to make the caramel machiattos?
So we require drugs, as usual, to solve all the problems we create for ourselves.
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I don't think that is going to happen but that does bring up a good point. The high cost of the unvaccinated that get sick and who pays. With he unvaccinated taking up most of the critical care beds and sick beds, the cost is enormous.
Sooner or later you have to wonder that the insured unvaccinated is going to get some pushback from the insurance companies and their high cost of care should they get covid. Between public programs, medicare, insurance the system is really being strained and unsustainable.