Unvaccinated: Indefensible

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The choice to not take the COVID vaccine I feel is not defendable. The facts are that 99% of hospitalizations/deaths due to COVID are unvaccinated patients currently. This has caused a more severe strain on a already extremely stressed hospital staff, shortage of equipment and services, injury and death from other causes due to delay of care and suffering of everyone involved in the hospitalized COVID patient among other issues. Virologists report delta and other strains are accelerated and created due to the numbers of unvaccinated people in the US. The fact that vaccination rates have only increased about 20% since July with the information available is appalling, while there are 130k new infections daily in the US. This should not be a personal or individual choice and appears due to unfounded anxiety, medical or religious exception and or politics. 

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11 minutes ago, hospiceNurse2012 said:

I decline the vaccine...I am in the ICU on a weekly basis... pronouncing people who have been vaccinated.. it doesn't work

In what capacity are you in the ICU on a weekly basis and why would you be there to pronounce people?

JKL33... read my username... our physician pronounces.... I am on the hospice team... thus, hospicenurse2012

Just thought I would check, user names aren't required to reflect posters' current work. So I guess you're saying that a hospice patient died and that means that the vaccine doesn't work.

because I am a hospice nurse and am seeing so many people who are dying with the vaccine... and, the physician who signs the certification of death are saying it WAS COVID who killed the person... and the person RECEIVED THE JAB... yes, I am saying the vaccine is ineffective... and the physician signing the certificate is stating the patient died as a result of having COVID regardless of BEING VACCINATED.  

it's unquestionably ineffective... or, there would not be a question of those of US (*millions) who are NOT VACCINATED are infected those who have chosen to become vaccinated.. THINK!!  Vaccination means you are given some sort of immunity so you DON'T get the virus... but, even those WHO ARE VACCINATED are getting rona... so, yes... it is ineffective...

Specializes in Treatment-resistant Clinical Depression.

I caught COVID in November 2020, before I could get a vaccine.


Both the CDC

https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html#ref30

and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Partial%20COVID%20vaccination%20and%20heterologous%20vacc%20schedule%20-%2022%20July%202021.pdf  

(reference #18)

Have both cited (and therefore, vouched for) the Israel Ministry of Health Study at:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1

"Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). 

prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). 

Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals."


If you never had COVID and you're unvaxxed, that is indefensible.

The COVID recovered have a defense and the CDC cites the data behind it.

An important nuance to the title of this post.

Ad hominem attacks and parroting conventional wisdom from March 2021 are unwelcome. Cite data that refutes the study if you choose to respond,  please. Data should control the dialog, not emotions.

Ummm I could be wrong but most covid pts in ICU die before hospice status just sayin 

In 2015 the developers of ivermectin were awarded the Nobel peace prize

yea... you are wrong... 

I'm in the ICU... they have us on speed dial... the family is consulted, explained the benefits of hospice, the medical record number is flipped to hospice and the hospital avoids accountability of a sentinel event.

Dr. Simone Gold is helping millions of people who are choosing freedom... 

you are not required to get this vaccine... 

you can stand, with millions, who are declining...

we are choosing our own choices...

including a healthy lifestyle and proactively caring for our souls, minds, and bodies... 

Making choices based on fear, is not freedom... it's like what the Afghani's are now experiencing due to Biden's poor plan of evacuation..

we are not living in fear.

Campbell won for his work against round worms! This is classic alternative facts misinformation spreading. 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
24 minutes ago, hospiceNurse2012 said:

because I am a hospice nurse and am seeing so many people who are dying with the vaccine... and, the physician who signs the certification of death are saying it WAS COVID who killed the person... and the person RECEIVED THE JAB... yes, I am saying the vaccine is ineffective... and the physician signing the certificate is stating the patient died as a result of having COVID regardless of BEING VACCINATED.  

it's unquestionably ineffective... or, there would not be a question of those of US (*millions) who are NOT VACCINATED are infected those who have chosen to become vaccinated.. THINK!!  Vaccination means you are given some sort of immunity so you DON'T get the virus... but, even those WHO ARE VACCINATED are getting rona... so, yes... it is ineffective...

The data and evidence is in disagreement with your opinion and feelings about the efficacy of the vaccines. Vaccination provides protection against serious illness and death, you have misunderstood their purpose. 

were we talking about worms?  or, American freedom?  

Americans are sought after for having freedom... 

freedom to walk into the trade tower on Sept 11, or, stay home, or, take the wrong exit, delaying their arrival to another's demise, that day.

we are freedom lovers...

So a reader should believe you after you posted that the ivermectin scientist won in 2015 intimating something about the connection between that and covid treatment? Not buying it today. 

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