The choice to not take the COVID vaccine I feel is not defendable. The facts are that 99% of hospitalizations/deaths due to COVID are unvaccinated patients currently. This has caused a more severe strain on a already extremely stressed hospital staff, shortage of equipment and services, injury and death from other causes due to delay of care and suffering of everyone involved in the hospitalized COVID patient among other issues. Virologists report delta and other strains are accelerated and created due to the numbers of unvaccinated people in the US. The fact that vaccination rates have only increased about 20% since July with the information available is appalling, while there are 130k new infections daily in the US. This should not be a personal or individual choice and appears due to unfounded anxiety, medical or religious exception and or politics.
Indefensible eh? Maybe when you have a friend die after the vaccine, and several others develop Central venous thrombosis and other issues a few days after being poked, you might reconsider your selfish demands
It’s the same concept. Sounds like your logic or critical thinking is absent. We are being told to get a vaccine to protect ourselves and those around us, correct?
Same can be applied to HIV. I worked in HIV clinic and know that majority of HIV+ infections in this country come from unprotected gay sex. Per CDC: “Men who have sex with men (MSM) remain the group most heavily affected by HIV in the United States”. https://www.CDC.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/factsheets/new-hiv-infections-508.pdf
COVID is a bigger problem and most people that end up in the hospital with severe COVID are already sick to begin with. Mostly obese and diabetics, mostly self inflicted conditions.
“Obesity and diabetes are two major risk factors for COVID‐19 hospitalization
People with Obesity and Diabetes are at higher risk for severe illness”
Having worked in COVID ICU for the past year, I have not seen a single person without some sort of chronic condition. Vast majority of our patients are obese with multiple other issues.
What should we do with Obese and Diabetics since they’re endangering us and putting a huge strain on our healthcare system?
Is your argument really that there's currently no interest in reducing the prevalence of obesity or diabetes?
Indefensible eh? Maybe when you have a friend die after the vaccine, and several others develop Central venous thrombosis and other issues a few days after being poked, you might reconsider your selfish demands
The vaccine against Covid is more dangerous than Covid?
Is your argument really that there's currently no interest in reducing the prevalence of obesity or diabetes?
Our whole system is based on “sick care”. You’re fat? OK we have a pill for that! There is an interest but whatever is being done is obliviously not working. We keep getting bigger and fatter as a nation.
Our whole system is based on “sick care”. You’re fat? OK we have a pill for that! There is an interest but whatever is being done is obliviously not working. We keep getting bigger and fatter as a nation.
My whole point is: if we are pushing and mandating vaccines for COVID, because COVID puts other people at risk and strain on our health system. We should do the same with other diseases / conditions.
Indefensible eh? Maybe when you have a friend die after the vaccine, and several others develop Central venous thrombosis and other issues a few days after being poked, you might reconsider your selfish demands
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis?
28 cases and 3 deaths, and several were your friends?
It’s the same concept. Sounds like your logic or critical thinking is absent. We are being told to get a vaccine to protect ourselves and those around us, correct?
Same can be applied to HIV. I worked in HIV clinic and know that majority of HIV+ infections in this country come from unprotected gay sex. Per CDC: “Men who have sex with men (MSM) remain the group most heavily affected by HIV in the United States”. https://www.CDC.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/factsheets/new-hiv-infections-508.pdf
COVID is a bigger problem and most people that end up in the hospital with severe COVID are already sick to begin with. Mostly obese and diabetics, mostly self inflicted conditions.
“Obesity and diabetes are two major risk factors for COVID‐19 hospitalization
People with Obesity and Diabetes are at higher risk for severe illness”
Having worked in COVID ICU for the past year, I have not seen a single person without some sort of chronic condition. Vast majority of our patients are obese with multiple other issues.
What should we do with Obese and Diabetics since they’re endangering us and putting a huge strain on our healthcare system?
My logic and critical thinking are perfectly intact. There are plenty of heterosexuals with HIV. I’ve had to call them with their results. The statement was completely bigoted and offensive and I’m not even part of the population that it’s directed towards. Plus, no one is catching HIV by standing in the same airspace. I was going to add more about you stand on covid being for those who are obese and diabetic but I’m not going to waste my time. Yes, it’s going to increase the odds but hell no being fit and pre-existing condition free sure as hell does not give you an instant get out of death card and it certainly doesn’t guarantee that you won’t have long lasting effects of the virus like chronic lung damage later….and I guess to hell with anyone you infect along the way if positive right?
My whole point is: if we are pushing and mandating vaccines for COVID, because COVID puts other people at risk and strain on our health system. We should do the same with other diseases / conditions.
We aren't already 'pushing' treatment of obestity and diabetes?
My whole point is: if we are pushing and mandating vaccines for COVID, because COVID puts other people at risk and strain on our health system. We should do the same with other diseases / conditions.
Maybe we can worry about that more once we deal with the more pressing topic at hand? A vaccine takes a few weeks to complete. Severe life changes will take months or years and some people won’t have that if they get infected first. Deal with the global crisis first, then we can worry about the weight issues and the underlying psychosocial aspects that may be the root cause. Until those are handled-pills are a temporary bandaid.
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1 hour ago, Seda8OR said:
Indefensible eh? Maybe when you have a friend die after the vaccine, and several others develop Central venous thrombosis and other issues a few days after being poked, you might reconsider your selfish demands
It's not selfish to want to achieve herd immunity. I am sorry for the loss of your friend; it's rare for vaccinated healthy people to die of COVID. How many do you actually know had thromboses? I am really curious to know. I don't know of ONE.
Indefensible eh? Maybe when you have a friend die after the vaccine, and several others develop Central venous thrombosis and other issues a few days after being poked, you might reconsider your selfish demands
What's the prevalence of central venous thrombosis?
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Indefensible eh? Maybe when you have a friend die after the vaccine, and several others develop Central venous thrombosis and other issues a few days after being poked, you might reconsider your selfish demands