Texas governor to residents: "The safest place for you is at your home" due Covid-19 spike

OinksNemisis · Jul 14, 2020

1 minute ago, NewRN'16 said:
Well, on a positive side, at least he didn't advice drinking bleach, like his idol. ??

As H.L. Mencken said

In this world of sin and sorrow , one must search for reasons to be grateful....

NewRN'16, ADN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:
It is not clear at all that the poster you are engaging is actually a health professional. The thinking and statements seem inconsistent with college education in the sciences and more consistent with a political agenda. I believe that it's best to deprive such accounts of the attention and disruption they seek. The moderators will step in when the reaction to the lack of attention violates TOS.

Excellent advice. We should all start doing that.

OinksNemisis · Jul 14, 2020

4 minutes ago, NewRN'16 said:
Excellent advice. We should all start doing that.

I have mixed thoughts as I don't think that unadulterated poppycock should be left uncontested... but on the other hand, it would be so nice if the poster of was not left unrestrained to continue the daily dumpings which are in direct contrast to all medical evidence and with millions of lives and hospital systems solvency on the line...

NewRN'16, ADN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

1 minute ago, OinksNemisis said:
I have mixed thoughts as I don't think that unadulterated poppycock should be left uncontested... but on the other hand, it would be so nice if the poster of was not left unrestrained to continue the daily dumpings which are in direct contrast to all medical evidence and with millions of lives and hospital systems solvency on the line...

After reading quite a few of his threads and seeing the same pattern in his responses, I honestly think that they're trolling (I hope I'm not breaking any rules by saying that).

Guest1142305 · Jul 14, 2020

29 minutes ago, BostonFNP said:
The same poster on multiple occasions has advocated for the use of Decadron on mildly symptomatic and early stage COVID patients; it demonstrates that the poster is either ignorant of the actual data or maliciously giving dangerous advice.
And, I am qualified to offer the above opinion.

You are indeed qualified, so thank you for chipping in. That does seem like an odd advice to give. I can see that the drug has helped the critically ill, but I would think that giving it to mildly ill patients seems like an incredibly bad idea as it would increase apoptosis in the very immune cells which are fighting this virus. In severe patients differentiated T cells and antibodies should have already developed sufficiently to mount a response against the infection and you would just be taking enough edge off the response to prevent a cytokine storm.

Good catch on that one.

OinksNemisis · Jul 14, 2020

1 minute ago, damiorifice said:
You are indeed qualified, so thank you for chipping in. That does seem like an odd advice to give. I can see that the drug has helped the critically ill, but I would think that giving it to mildly ill patients seems like an incredibly bad idea as it would increase apoptosis in the very immune cells which are fighting this virus. In severe patients differentiated T cells and antibodies should have already developed sufficiently to mount a response against the infection and you would just be taking enough edge off the response to prevent a cytokine storm.
Good catch on that one.

what is your specialty, Damienus, if I may ask kindly?

Wuzzie · Jul 14, 2020

2 minutes ago, damiorifice said:
but I would think that giving it to mildly ill patients seems like an incredibly bad idea as it would increase apoptosis in the very immune cells which are fighting this virus.

It was much worse. He suggested giving them a script and sending them home.

Guest1142305 · Jul 14, 2020

11 minutes ago, OinksNemisis said:
what is your specialty, Damienus, if I may ask kindly?

I don’t have one yet. I’m just a very socially awkward polymath who intends on starting a demsn in 2021. I read.... A LOT. And I had a desperately ill child and my own severe disability that forced me to bury my face in a lot of medical texts. I love learning. I find discussions like this thread invigorating and that they force me to learn new things.

My university education is actually in Religion.

9 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:
It was much worse. He suggested giving them a script and sending them home.

No, no, no, oh dear Jesus no. Doesn’t that drug carry a small risk of a major reaction like methylprednisolone? What happens if you give it to someone and they go into anaphylactic shock like I did taking solumedrol? Dear Lord!

Wuzzie · Jul 14, 2020

17 minutes ago, damiorifice said:
No, no, no, oh dear Jesus no.

And also masks cause "severe hypercapnea".

This is the issue we are having. It's not a matter of disagreeing. We can usually handle that without too much fuss. It's this stuff that sets us off.

allnurses Guide · Jul 14, 2020

37 minutes ago, NewRN'16 said:
After reading quite a few of his threads and seeing the same pattern in his responses, I honestly think that they're trolling (I hope I'm not breaking any rules by saying that).

I do believe we have given a great deal of "entertainment" to this individual and I also believe that failing to get a rise out of us would cause them to look for their entertainment elsewhere.

Kitiger, RN · Jul 14, 2020

We can hope.

allnurses Guide · Jul 14, 2020

"The mRNA-1273 vaccine induced anti–SARS-CoV-2 immune responses in all participants, and no trial-limiting safety concerns were identified."

Jackson LA, Anderson EJ, Rouphael NG, et al. An mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 — preliminary report. N Engl J Med. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2022483.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483