Texas governor to residents: "The safest place for you is at your home" due Covid-19 spike

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

1 hour ago, NRSKarenRN said:
Another easy to understand Mask sign.

Fine. And businesses here in Texas also restrict people who wear masks, too. Which is fair because it's up to the individual business owner to decide what he or she wants to tolerate.

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

6 hours ago, BostonFNP said:
It's these same "freedom-loving people" that are 1. spreading the disease, 2. taking up hospital beds, 3. costing the rest of the sane population billions of dollars, and 4. prolonging phased reopening. That isn't "freedom-loving" it is self-righteousness.

The disease is going to spread no matter what. Because we don't have immunity yet. What are you going to do? Have quarantine every single time there's a "wave" for decades on end? Enough is enough.

Subee2, BSN, MSN, CRNA · Jul 14, 2020

20 hours ago, damiorifice said:
My goodness HIV is terrifying. Thank God it’s not respiratory. Anything that hijacks helper T cells to proliferate copies of its viral rna essentially renders us helpless since macrophages and B cells will not recognize the affected T cells as viral hosts. It amazing me people still proliferate that viral nightmare instead of practicing safe sex, using clean needles, etc.
As far as I’ve read yet, Covid didn’t have the capacity to infiltrate any of our immune cells. This bodes well for mounting some type of response with an unknown lifespan on the resultant memory T cells.

recovery should grant some type of immunity, but it could be as short as 6 months if the memory T cells are not marked for replication. Immunologists , as far as I know, do not know how or why our immune system chooses to proliferate copies of some memory T cells and not others. It’s amazing how much we still don’t understand about the human body and how it works in this age.

I agree COVID is no joke. It nearly wiped me out at 37, but I have respiratory problems. It’s just a cruddy situation. There are no good answers. It’s sort of a mitigating loss situation. Do you treat the infection or amputate? That’s how I see it in analogy form. There is no good solution to this mess. It’s going to be bad.

This is how scared we were; just threw away our precious Bic pens ( probably $.69 at the time) at the end if the case.

Subee2, BSN, MSN, CRNA · Jul 14, 2020

10 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:
It's a "novel" disease so we'll have herd immunity when a community of freedom-loving people elect to be the first to not live in fear and paranoia over this Corona anymore, decide to return to normalcy, and tell Corona-obsessed people to take a hike.

Just Google herd immunity Covid and you will see a multitude of articles debunking your script. What would happen if your teleprompter is taken away?

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

Those South Koreans that got the Corona twice were very very rare exceptions. The vast majority of people who get Corona will get immunity. Even the cult of personality figurehead Anthony Fauci said so, at least for several months.

Guest219794 · Jul 14, 2020

Imagine if in England in in WWII during the enforced blackouts to prevent bombings there had been jackasses talking about liberty and their freedom to not live in fear. My choice whether my lights are on. Imagine some idiot calling that tyranny, and calling those who complied cowards.

Obviously, the scale is different, but the concept is the same.

When you engage this nonsense, you just give a platform for some folks to spew horse poop.

Sorry. I deal hands on with Covid and am not the least bit scared of it. Just got off a 12 hr shift. When somebody refers to the actions I take to protect others in the community as fear based, it is a personal insult that some here feel free to make because it is an anonymous forum.

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

1 minute ago, hherrn said:
Imagine if in England in in WWII during the enforced blackouts to prevent bombings there had been jackasses talking about liberty and their freedom to not live in fear. My choice whether my lights are on. Imagine some idiot calling that tyranny, and calling those who complied cowards.
Obviously, the scale is different, but the concept is the same.
When you engage this nonsense, you just give a platform for some folks to spew horse poop.
Sorry. I deal hands on with Covid and am not the least bit scared of it. Just got off a 12 hr shift. When somebody refers to the actions I take to protect others in the community as fear based, it is a personal insult that some here feel free to make because it is an anonymous forum.

Go blackout in your own home and go sleep in an underground bunker if you're that scared of Corona to the point where you think it's the same as Luftwaffe bombing you. You can choose to fight Corona forever, we don't have to join you.

allnurses Guide · Jul 14, 2020

I cared for the first AIDS patient at my hospital before we or anyone knew what it was. Our physicians and everyone else couldn't understand why he couldn't recover from minor surgery. He developed Pneumocystis pneumonia and came to our ICU on a vent. Once I removed tape on his hand and he bled. I used gauze that seeped through the 4X4. He was a nice young man who never got off the vent.

A few years later I worked on a respiratory unit. It became an AIDS unit because there were isolation rooms. It was disorganized for such a unit. That was when we didn't yet know it was only blood born. We had to wear a gown, bonnet, shoe covers, a mask, gloves, and goggles. Staffing was one RN and either two LVNs or an LVN and a CNA for up to 27 patients AND no housekeeping at night except in the ER.

Once I answered a call light to find a very embarrassed patient because he had diarrhea on the floor from his bed to the toilet. I cleaned the floor with towels and a bath blanket. He then asked for some orange juice. I took off the gear in the ante room, washed my hands, and went to the desk to get the key, then to the break room where I had to stand on a chair to unlock the top cupboard to get a paper cup, then to the kitchen for juice, and the clean utility room for a straw. THEN wash hands, don gear, and finally give him his juice. Then he said, "That was good. Can I have another juice?" (How disorganized were they?)

When I had asked it we could put cups and straws in the kitchen we were told visitors would go in and get themselves something!

We had only ONE big sharps container in the dirty utility room! One nurse stabbed her thump putting the cap on a needle. Another cut her hand on a scalpel a doctor had left in the bed. During the next couple years we learned how it spread, got better organized, needed only gloves for routine care, and added staff. Still the most difficult part was getting to know and like most patients and their families. So many younger than me died. I remember them and helped with a sqare for the AIDS quilt with the name of one special kind and talented young man.

I finished my RN and transferred to CCU. When the test for HIV became available in 1986 I got tested because of the bloody 4X4 and was negative. A good friend was positive. He lived and worked several years before he died.

pixierose, BSN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

11 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:
Go blackout in your own home and go sleep in an underground bunker if you're that scared of Corona to the point where you think it's the same as Luftwaffe bombing you. You can choose to fight Corona forever, we don't have to join you.

And that’s the problem: “we don’t have the join you.”

I worked on my COVID unit at the height of the peak here in the NE until late June (when it closed). I actually felt quite safe working there.

I’m afraid of people with your mindset, not “scared of Corona.”

I wear my mask to protect the freedom of others. Drivel such as that stated above will continue to keep states from fully opening, continue to get people sick (yes, even the young and healthy).

The U.S. is to be pitied. You don’t know the meaning of tyranny.

allnurses Guide · Jul 14, 2020

Looking back at the past month in Texas:

6/13/2020

29,100 tests/day
6.1% positive rate
2,287 hospitalizations
18 deaths/day

7/12/2020

53,800 tests/day (up 184%)
16.85% positive rate (up 276%)
10,405 hospitalizations (up 455%)
80 deaths/day (up 444%)

Any trained healthcare professional should be able to look at these numbers and see the major problem in Texas right now.

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN · Jul 14, 2020

2 minutes ago, BostonFNP said:
Any trained healthcare professional should be able to look at these numbers and see the major problem in Texas right now.

New York was averaging 800-900 deaths per day throughout April.

Source:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

Bear in mind that Texas has about 9 million more people than New York.

The Coronavirus is not as virulent as it was. Yay humans. Bad news for the public health "experts" who can't milk the Corona-induced fear-mongering for publicity much longer.

Guest219794 · Jul 14, 2020

1 hour ago, pixierose said:
And that’s the problem: “we don’t have the join you.”
I worked on my COVID unit at the height of the peak here in the NE until late June (when it closed). I actually felt quite safe working there.
I’m afraid of people with your mindset, not “scared of Corona.”
I wear my mask to protect the freedom of others. Drivel such as that stated above will continue to keep states from fully opening, continue to get people sick (yes, even the young and healthy).
The U.S. is to be pitied. You don’t know the meaning of tyranny.

Seriously- don't engage.
All you are doing is enlarging the platform.

A while back this forum had contentious subjects, and there was some degree of hostility, for the most part there was healthy debate.

But this is a new forum, in which every thread on this subject is redirected by a very small group. The discussion has nothing to do with nursing, facts, science, logic have been replaced by alternative facts.

When you respond rationally, all you are doing is hanging a target for pot shots from those who have reset the tenor of this forum.