I'm surprised there has been no mention of the Stanford rape trial and sentence on all nurses. I'm opening up the discussion as I feel it pertains to us in many ways. One as people who may have been victims or know others who have been victims of sexual violence and two as nurses that have taken care of others in this situation, whether directly in ER or a patient suffering from PTSD with other health problems as well.
I applaud the survivor's bravery and her impact statement that has gone public. I hope this will comfort other survivors, but even more I hope this will discourage rape in general. Campus rapes are common and rapes at frats are in the news frequently. Once again a college athlete got off with just a slap on the wrist, although I don't think he counted on all the negative publicity this case has garnered.
What disturbs me the most is the letters of the parents to the judge. The father's don't punish him for 20 minutes of action. Then the mother's letter, who by the way is a nurse for gynecological surgeries and in the past as a pediatric nurse, who had not one iota of empathy for the victim. Her letter simply astonished me. I can't believe as a woman, as a nurse, as a mother of a daughter she had no empathy for the victim! This troubles me the most! I imagine in her years as a nurse she must have taken care of a rape victim and her total lack of empathy for the victim disturbs me greatly!
I don't see her being "glad" about anyone being falsely accused. Now I think you are just starting to make stuff up.
You've misinterpreted all along.
And now that you have clarified, I see what you are saying about biology and socialization. I'm not sure why you needed to say it and risk confusion and misunderstanding, because I had already said "in my experience. I didn't say "ovaries required" or "no testicles allowed in the kitchen".
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We don't know what has gone on in their private lives. She wrote a letter pleading for mercy for her son. She might very well have done in their private lives the things I said good parents do.
Have you seen the Facebook page supporting him? It's truly disgusting and shows exactly what this family is doing.
We still don't know what goes on behind their closed doors, though. Maybe they have seen the light after having been counseled by their clergy or whoever. We don't know.
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Ruby
Why do you believe in prevention of one type of crime but not another?
And of course you missed the part where I said you were to be applauded for leaving. Let's just focus on the ugly or what you believe is IMPLIED ugly.
PREVENTION of Domestic Violence? PREVENTION of rape? The only way to prevent either of those crimes is to raise our sons to respect women. (Yes, I know that men are sometimes the victims of both crimes, but both are in the minority.) If each of us took care to raise our sons NOT to rape or assault women, either strangers or their domestic partners, rape and domestic violence would be drastically reduced. Or are you talking about how I prevented my own murder by leaving the homocidal jackwipe? Perhaps if women dressed modestly, abstained from alcohol and never entered a bad neighborhood, they wouldn't get murdered OR raped. But what about domestic violence? Our home is supposed to be a safe place.
The way to prevent a crime is to prevent the criminal from committing it. The victim is not responsible for her rape, assault or murder. The rapist, assailant or murderer is responsible. My leaving didn't prevent him from assaulting his next intimate partner -- but perhaps if I had stayed with him, he would have continued assaulting me and the next woman would not have been assaulted. So did I CAUSE her problems? No! HE did.
The ONLY person responsible is the person who is out there raping, assaulting and murdering.
PREVENTION of Domestic Violence? PREVENTION of rape? The only way to prevent either of those crimes is to raise our sons to respect women. (Yes, I know that men are sometimes the victims of both crimes, but both are in the minority.) If each of us took care to raise our sons NOT to rape or assault women, either strangers or their domestic partners, rape and domestic violence would be drastically reduced. Or are you talking about how I prevented my own murder by leaving the homocidal jackwipe? Perhaps if women dressed modestly, abstained from alcohol and never entered a bad neighborhood, they wouldn't get murdered OR raped. But what about domestic violence? Our home is supposed to be a safe place.
The way to prevent a crime is to prevent the criminal from committing it. The victim is not responsible for her rape, assault or murder. The rapist, assailant or murderer is responsible. My leaving didn't prevent him from assaulting his next intimate partner -- but perhaps if I had stayed with him, he would have continued assaulting me and the next woman would not have been assaulted. So did I CAUSE her problems? No! HE did.
The ONLY person responsible is the person who is out there raping, assaulting and murdering.
PREVENTION of Domestic Violence? PREVENTION of rape? The only way to prevent either of those crimes is to raise our sons to respect women. (Yes, I know that men are sometimes the victims of both crimes, but both are in the minority.) If each of us took care to raise our sons NOT to rape or assault women, either strangers or their domestic partners, rape and domestic violence would be drastically reduced. Or are you talking about how I prevented my own murder by leaving the homocidal jackwipe? Perhaps if women dressed modestly, abstained from alcohol and never entered a bad neighborhood, they wouldn't get murdered OR raped. But what about domestic violence? Our home is supposed to be a safe place.
The way to prevent a crime is to prevent the criminal from committing it. The victim is not responsible for her rape, assault or murder. The rapist, assailant or murderer is responsible. My leaving didn't prevent him from assaulting his next intimate partner -- but perhaps if I had stayed with him, he would have continued assaulting me and the next woman would not have been assaulted. So did I CAUSE her problems? No! HE did.
The ONLY person responsible is the person who is out there raping, assaulting and murdering.
Yes, we do need to teach men to respect women.
I hear now Trump is accused of rape. Great, just what we need in the White House. But I think Clinton will win - if she's not indicted over Benghazi (sp?) and/or emails.
You will never understand what I am talking about, I guess. Sigh. The least you could do is give me credit for applauding your strength and wisdom in getting out.
Hopefully someone will rape him in jail. And for the 6 months. I doubt he will even serve that amount. It is disgusting all around . I am sure he will do something like this again and it will be worse. Very sad.
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You've misinterpreted all along.
And now that you have clarified, I see what you are saying about biology and socialization. I'm not sure why you needed to say it and risk confusion and misunderstanding, because I had already said "in my experience. I didn't say "ovaries required" or "no testicles allowed in the kitchen".
So it seems like you are nitpicking.