I'm actually broadly sympathetic to the protesters. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed, massive lines at food banks, and even more projected layoffs, even a Second Great Depression, people are going to have had it. Even nurses and other hospital workers cannot get paid if the economy tanks and there's no money cycling through the U.S. system.
I think the quarantines have gone on way too long. We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place. If people are still that scared of this Coronavirus they ought to quarantine themselves. The rest of the country shouldn't have to keep catering to the susceptible minority much longer. I'm grateful that I live in Texas and my governor seems committed to reopening our state in early May, whether hell or high water.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 minute ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:
So basically never. Thank you for your roundabout answer.
So basically you exist in some alternate reality where people aren't going to get sick if they break the scientific public health recommendations during a pandemic. My answer was accurate, you apparently cannot process it because it doesn't fit with your panicked and unprofessional opinion. No surprise there, you are soundly on the record dismissing sound science in favor of panic.
I actually exist in this reality where nurses and other healthcare workers understand that nothing beneficial can happen, including a fight against the Coronavirus, if the economy goes kaput.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Just now, A Hit With The Ladies said:
I actually exist in this reality where nurses and other healthcare workers understand that nothing beneficial can happen, including a fight against the Coronavirus, if the economy goes kaput.
In your opinion. However, the objective evidence demonstrates that you are experiencing a panic and have a poor understanding of either the science or the economics involved.
On 4/20/2020 at 12:06 PM, A Hit With The Ladies said:
Thank you @Sour Lemon! The most obnoxious nurses are the ones who assume you're Nurse Ratched if you don't (conveniently) agree with their own viewpoints. Oh, the humanity!
You will never be a Hit With The Ladies with that attitude
There is nothing "opinion" about the fact that decreased revenues for state budgets and for healthcare organizations means that there will be fewer nurses to even fight this Coronavirus. That is the cold, hard truth. The healthcare sector of this economy is closely intertwined with all the other parts of the economy.
I understand this specific article is talking about intermittent, not constant, lockdowns. But to laugh at someone because they are worried this could go on for “years” is unfair. Many, many experts are saying lockdown must continue until a vaccine is developed. Surely we all know that is not a 2 or 3 or 4 month process.
I actually exist in this reality where nurses and other healthcare workers understand that nothing beneficial can happen, including a fight against the Coronavirus, if the economy goes kaput.
So you say. yet somehow, you've yet to offer a single citation, let alone a statistical model or even solid historical reference for one iota of your rhetoric. I've worked with many a graduate level public health specialist in my day, and I've yet to see any of them argue without facts, citations and solid statistical models.
Keep in mind you are on a career professional website as you hurl your gadfly innuendo and grade-school insults around. They probably aren't as impressive as they may be in the circles you are used to.
I understand this specific article is talking about intermittent, not constant, lockdowns. But to laugh at someone because they are worried this could go on for “years” is unfair. Many, many experts are saying lockdown must continue until a vaccine is developed. Surely we all know that is not a 2 or 3 or 4 month process.
Correct. it is not only talking about intermittent social distancing, but the "years" you are referring to are specifically stated to be "in absence of a vaccine and treatment". Therefore, it does not at all support the rhetorical spammer you are defending and his demonstrably incorrect cbinary choice that the nation must choose the economy OR protecting our citizens health.
In fact by not doing the latter, and forcing the healthcare system to collapse and continued deficit spending as the pandemic infection and death toll grows, ensures the economic devastation will be worse, not better
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
28 minutes ago, HeartlandRN said:
Correct. it is not only talking about intermittent social distancing, but the "years" you are ..referring to are specifically stated to be "in absence of a vaccine and treatment". Therefore, it does not at all support the rhetorical spammer you are defending and his demonstrably incorrect c binary choice that the nation must choose the economy OR protecting our citizens health.
In fact by not doing the latter, and forcing the healthcare system to collapse and continued deficit spending as the pandemic infection and death toll grows, ensures the economic devastation will be worse, not better
Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
1 hour ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:
America is all about minority rights. You are free to quarantine yourself for the rest of your life if you so choose. Many of us will gladly partake in unused gyms
First of all, minority rights is not the same as giving into the uneducated whims of 36% of the nation. This is a democracy and 36% should not be able to dictate what over 60% want. You would have a problem with it too if you were not apart of the 36%.
Secondly, quarantine only works if we all do it. Science, and not wishes and unicorns, will bring the spread of the virus to a hault and will later allow us to reopen the economy. So you and a few of your friends paying to go to gyms will not bring the economy back any time soon. Most people, thankfully, believe in science and not the nonsense and opinions from the Daily Mail (I am pointing out your original reference).
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So basically never. Thank you for your roundabout answer.