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Should nurses be getting involved in the Reopen America protests nationwide?

Posted

Specializes in Psych. Has 5 years experience.

Check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235127/Defiant-healthcare-workers-clash-anti-lockdown-protesters-Colorado.html

I'm actually broadly sympathetic to the protesters. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed, massive lines at food banks, and even more projected layoffs, even a Second Great Depression, people are going to have had it. Even nurses and other hospital workers cannot get paid if the economy tanks and there's no money cycling through the U.S. system.

I think the quarantines have gone on way too long. We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place. If people are still that scared of this Coronavirus they ought to quarantine themselves. The rest of the country shouldn't have to keep catering to the susceptible minority much longer. I'm grateful that I live in Texas and my governor seems committed to reopening our state in early May, whether hell or high water.

HandsOffMySteth

Has 3 years experience.

It seems like only the big cities are the hot areas at this point. You have to take into account that this whole thing started by just a handful of people. Following the curve I think this will be behind us by June.

toomuchbaloney

Has 43 years experience.

58 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235127/Defiant-healthcare-workers-clash-anti-lockdown-protesters-Colorado.html

I'm actually broadly sympathetic to the protesters. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed, massive lines at food banks, and even more projected layoffs, even a Second Great Depression, people are going to have had it. Even nurses and other hospital workers cannot get paid if the economy tanks and there's no money cycling through the U.S. system.

I think the quarantines have gone on way too long. We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place. If people are still that scared of this Coronavirus they ought to quarantine themselves. The rest of the country shouldn't have to keep catering to the susceptible minority much longer. I'm grateful that I live in Texas and my governor seems committed to reopening our state in early May, whether hell or high water.

Right.

The population in general should cater to the needs and fears of capitalists and ignore health risks because there is money to be made.

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psych. Has 5 years experience.

So you think people should just run out of money and we ought to have Great Depression #2 over this Coronavirus? Enough is enough. If people want to live in bunkers ten feet underground for years on end that is their prerogative (don't ask me how they'll pay for food). But it is absurdly unrealistic to sit around and wait for years on end, hoping for some vaccine that may or may not appear, and for there to be mass unemployment and flat-out starvation.

4 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

So you think people should just run out of money and we ought to have Great Depression #2 over this Coronavirus? Enough is enough. If people want to live in bunkers ten feet underground for years on end that is their prerogative (don't ask me how they'll pay for food). But it is absurdly unrealistic to sit around and wait for years on end, hoping for some vaccine that may or may not appear, and for there to be mass unemployment and flat-out starvation.

What is your solution?

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psych. Has 5 years experience.

Reopen America, let the vulnerable people (elderly & immunocompromised) stay home with continued stimulus for those at high-risk, and let the vast majority return to work. We should have taken the Sweden herd immunity route from the get-go.

Daisy4RN

Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg. Has 20 years experience.

The nurses have a right to protest the protesters if they want to, free country (at least for now).

That said, just exactly how long do people think we can shut down the country before it implodes. People need to get back to work for a number of reasons including financial stability for the individual as well as the country. We can open up as each community see fit depending on what is going on there. Different communities have different issues. I agree, enough is enough!

I did read that Sweden is seeing an increase now but we are on a different curve with a much bigger country with different situations in each state/community.

Sour Lemon

Has 11 years experience.

1 hour ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235127/Defiant-healthcare-workers-clash-anti-lockdown-protesters-Colorado.html

I'm actually broadly sympathetic to the protesters. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed, massive lines at food banks, and even more projected layoffs, even a Second Great Depression, people are going to have had it. Even nurses and other hospital workers cannot get paid if the economy tanks and there's no money cycling through the U.S. system.

I think the quarantines have gone on way too long. We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place. If people are still that scared of this Coronavirus they ought to quarantine themselves. The rest of the country shouldn't have to keep catering to the susceptible minority much longer. I'm grateful that I live in Texas and my governor seems committed to reopening our state in early May, whether hell or high water.

I am inclined to agree with you. Additional precautions should be taken in the hardest hit areas, but we can't all stay home forever.

HandsOffMySteth

Has 3 years experience.

47 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Right.

The population in general should cater to the needs and fears of capitalists and ignore health risks because there is money to be made.

As opposed to communists? North Korea doesn't have it because no one goes there. China's leaders live in luxury while its people starve.

I think you're confusing capitalism with greed, there is a difference.

toomuchbaloney

Has 43 years experience.

57 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Reopen America, let the vulnerable people (elderly & immunocompromised) stay home with continued stimulus for those at high-risk, and let the vast majority return to work. We should have taken the Sweden herd immunity route from the get-go.

What type of immunity do humans develop after recovering from COVID? Do they suffer any long term complications from the infection?

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2 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place.

I don't disagree with you about a controlled re-opening because we can't keep this up for much longer without monumental collateral damage however, not sure that Sweden is the best model to follow at the moment. Full disclosure, their spike is not as severe as China and Italy's were but they are similar in population and size to my state and we have only slightly over a third of the deaths they have had to date.

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53 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

So you think people should just run out of money and we ought to have Great Depression #2 over this Coronavirus? Enough is enough. If people want to live in bunkers ten feet underground for years on end that is their prerogative (don't ask me how they'll pay for food). But it is absurdly unrealistic to sit around and wait for years on end, hoping for some vaccine that may or may not appear, and for there to be mass unemployment and flat-out starvation.

Nobody is expected to wait around for “years” - people who have been laid off can collect $962 a week ($24/hr!) in my state from unemployment, and businesses have been incentivized to dish out full pay to keep people from being laid off.

if anything, the “essential” workers are the ones getting screwed here, I doubt many of them are making $24 an hour while being actively exposed to the virus.

having even 60 days off with pay is a once in a lifetime opportunity.. quit whining.

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