Should nurses be getting involved in the Reopen America protests nationwide?

[A Hit With The Ladies]

Check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235127/Defiant-healthcare-workers-clash-anti-lockdown-protesters-Colorado.html

I'm actually broadly sympathetic to the protesters. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed, massive lines at food banks, and even more projected layoffs, even a Second Great Depression, people are going to have had it. Even nurses and other hospital workers cannot get paid if the economy tanks and there's no money cycling through the U.S. system.

I think the quarantines have gone on way too long. We should have gone the Sweden herd immunity model in the first place. If people are still that scared of this Coronavirus they ought to quarantine themselves. The rest of the country shouldn't have to keep catering to the susceptible minority much longer. I'm grateful that I live in Texas and my governor seems committed to reopening our state in early May, whether hell or high water.

[HandsOffMySteth]

8 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

You can cut the sanctimonious attitude. There's nothing selfless or just about having 40-50% unemployment, daily breadlines, mass evictions and eventual starvation and widespread homelessness. America shouldn't just collapse because of Coronavirus.

Trading sickness for poverty. Not a solution.

[lifelearningrn, BSN, RN]

43 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No, I didn't confuse anything. Greed is simply a human failing...it can abuse any economic system. In the USA it is capitalists insisting that the workers return to work regardless of risk.

True. They realize that without the people, the corporate overlords can't keep handing their CEOs, board members and shareholders million dollar bonuses. Hopefully something good will come of all this. Maybe they'll see the error in their own excessive ways?

Hey, maybe now is a time to bargain. The people tell corporate America yeah, we will go back to work. But we want the huge bonuses to be split equally among the employees, with the CEOs only making their salaries.

I know, I know-- pipe dream. Greed and power aren't easily given up, once established.

[Daisy4RN]

40 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

And what about those of us who are not on unemployment? We get nothing. Meanwhile the dems want to add spending to the next bill for things that are completely unrelated.

And, as I am sure you know, they already did that on the first bill!

[HandsOffMySteth]

6 minutes ago, lifelearningrn said:

True. They realize that without the people, the corporate overlords can't keep handing their CEOs, board members and shareholders million dollar bonuses. Hopefully something good will come of all this. Maybe they'll see the error in their own excessive ways?

Hey, maybe now is a time to bargain. The people tell corporate America yeah, we will go back to work. But we want the huge bonuses to be split equally among the employees, with the CEOs only making their salaries.

I know, I know-- pipe dream. Greed and power aren't easily given up, once established.

I thought that is what the unions are for. Except the union bosses also got greedy.☹️

[toomuchbaloney]

40 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

I was under the impression that it is the WORKERS who are trying to get back to work.

Who is convincing the workers that the government can't guarantee that they won't lose their homes or cars during this time? Are you suggesting that wealthy business interests aren't furthering the concern which influences the workers?

[HandsOffMySteth]

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Who is convincing the workers that the government can't guarantee that they won't lose their homes or cars during this time? Are you suggesting that wealthy business interests aren't furthering the concern which influences the workers?

Do you have any evidence of this?

[Daisy4RN]

43 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

I was under the impression that it is the WORKERS who are trying to get back to work.

It is the workers! They of course realize that the gov (ie taxpayers) cannot keep paying for people to sit at home, common sense. Most people feel a sense of satisfaction when they are able to care for themselves and their families and want to go back to work.

[lifelearningrn, BSN, RN]

2 minutes ago, juniper222 said:

I thought that is what the unions are for. Except the union bosses also got greedy.☹️

Too bad unions aren't available to all, or even most workers.

[toomuchbaloney]

1 minute ago, juniper222 said:

Do you have any evidence of this?

Have you listened to Trump or his economic advisers?

[toomuchbaloney]

2 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

It is the workers! They of course realize that the gov (ie taxpayers) cannot keep paying for people to sit at home, common sense. Most people feel a sense of satisfaction when they are able to care for themselves and their families and want to go back to work.

The government, in fact, can pay for people to sit at home until it's safer for the population at large...

They can also defer all mortgage or rent payments, all auto loan payments, etc for months. They can purchase and distribute food and water and routine medications.

[HandsOffMySteth]

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Have you listened to Trump or his economic advisers?

So what you're saying is that Trump and his advisors said that corporations are influencing the "open up America" movement? No, I'll have to look and see.

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

Right, because the government printing out trillions more and more every single month wouldn't cause any problems at all. It worked splendidly for the Weimar Republic in Germany and for Maduro's Venezuela, so why not do it here in America!?