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Okay, I fully expect to be slammed for this. What do all these posts about gaming the system to get early results say about the character of some of the new grads/nurse candidates? One of the prime requisites of being a nurse is good judgement. Boasting about or encouraging fraudulent behavior by using inaccurate or inadequate credit card information to get test results hours or days quicker does not speak well of one's judgement and maturity. Is this what we accept from our colleagues?
It may be harsh but I think this is a matter of integrity. I understand impatience very well, I understand wanting to know if all the work of school paid off, what I don't understand is how easily one can ignore the lessons of integrity and professionalism.
If one can lie to a faceless testing company how one respond when faced with a potential life threatening situation that requires, patience, integrity, and maturity. It's a slippery slope, a little harmless deception here may reveal character issues that come to light when real harm may be caused.
So, slam me, flame me, whatever, or I hope some will agree with me.
I had a long, well-thought out post typed out in responses to the OP's original statement but since I tried the PVT trick once my judgement is probably flawed and my opinion is probably insignificant because honestly, I must have some moral turpitude.
Yep, right you are. Move along, nothing to see here...
I did the PVT with legit credit card info. I was prepared to pay 200 because I would've needed to pay it again anyway to re-take the NCLEX.If that bothers you or makes you question my character, oh well. Your problem....not mine.
I don't think you fall into the category that's being discussed as you put correct info in and were ready to pay the $200 dollars if needed. It's the people "gaming" the system that are raising the red flags. You're safe PB!
I did the PVT with legit credit card info. I was prepared to pay 200 because I would've needed to pay it again anyway to re-take the NCLEX.If that bothers you or makes you question my character, oh well. Your problem....not mine.
That's not the same as using fraudulent information to try to beat the system because you can't wait 48 freaking hours to get results. You said you were prepared to pay the money, one way or the other. Some of these people are just trying to jump the turnstiles, so to speak.
Peason Vue offers early results for eight dollars, why is this not considered ethically or morally wrong. The company is taking advantage of every candidate that takes the test and wants to know the results. Why are individual people being blamed for the time it takes to have test results snail mailed to them. There sure are a lot of saints on this site, I'm sure no one has ever done anything wrong ever.
Wait 6 weeks. It builds character. Hrrrrmmph.
To the topic, after all these years of reading AN, I did not know the trick was actually a trick. I can say that though I never clicked on them, I saw a lot of threads called "got the good pop-up" and a few such as "it's been 48 hours and I'm sweating bullets". I'm wondering if it isn't an expectations thing, or a culture thing, because the speed with which we are able to, and thus expect to access all information is most likely exponential and an algorithm.
I'm on the fence on the integrity issue, though. I have a couple of Google e-mail alerts for nursing related search topics. In the last 4 years, my inbox is literally filled with coursework for sale. Buy an essay, a term paper, you name it. Markets don't expand without customers and that disturbs me very much.
Did you read the OP? Her "beef" is with new grads using cards that they KNOW are expired, or entering the numbers incorrectly or using a pre paid card that they know does not have the funds to cover the $200 on it. The persons she is referring to are trying to beat the system by means that many consider unethical. Paying $8 with an active, legitimate CC is not unethical or immoral.
Peason Vue offers early results for eight dollars, why is this not considered ethically or morally wrong. The company is taking advantage of every candidate that takes the test and wants to know the results. Why are individual people being blamed for the time it takes to have test results snail mailed to them. There sure are a lot of saints on this site, I'm sure no one has ever done anything wrong ever.
Peason Vue offers early results for eight dollars, why is this not considered ethically or morally wrong. The company is taking advantage of every candidate that takes the test and wants to know the results. Why are individual people being blamed for the time it takes to have test results snail mailed to them. There sure are a lot of saints on this site, I'm sure no one has ever done anything wrong ever.
Pearson Vue has contracts with individual State Boards of Nursing to provide THEM with the results of the exams; it is up to each BoN as to how and when to release that information to the candidate. Pearson Vue has no obligation to tell the candidate a blessed thing.
Pearson Vue ALSO has a service, available for $7.95, in which they WILL release the results to the candidate, AFTER the results have been released to the BoN. For the additional service, yep, they do expect to be paid. Go figure!
Oh, and the States that do not participate in the Quick Results program? Your beef is with THEM, the BoN for those States....not Pearson Vue. California likes to squeeze the life out of its applicants, it seems, by not allowing PV to release results to the candidates AND their licensing process is excruciatingly slow. WEEKS to do what others manage to pull off in days. Again: not PV's problem.
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I had a long, well-thought out post typed out in responses to the OP's original statement but since I tried the PVT trick once my judgement is probably flawed and my opinion is probably insignificant because honestly, I must have some moral turpitude.