People with asthma in England fear being harassed and denied services for not being able to wear a mask

[A Hit With The Ladies]

Read this, from BBC News:

Millions go back into lockdown around the world

Mask mandates in Western countries! Can you believe it? In places like Iran they have "morality police" who harass women wearing clothing deemed too 'un-Islamic' and not covering their hair. In North Korea the government mandates you get a haircut from an approved list of 'socialist hairstyles'. Leftists here in the U.S. surely at licking their lips at the prospect of harassing those who don't conform to the mask national dress code.

[chare]

2 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

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Does your right to live as YOU want override YOUR responsibility to your fellow citizens?

Unfortunately, many people seem to believe it does.

[loveanesthesia]

On 7/18/2020 at 10:22 PM, TheDudeWithTheBigDog said:

He's not a nurse. I dealt with people like him A LOT in another profession I had, they politicize an idea, and they think they're being some kind of hero by going to a source of it posing as one of them. I'm willing to bet that describes him perfectly.

Except for maybe 5 posts saying he's in "NP school" or saying he worked in an ICU then ended up in psych, every single post is a political post about this virus. A nurse came to a nursing forum to talk politics about covid19, specifically to just relentlessly attack the liberals? No, this MO SCREAMS trucker. There's actually one in particular, from Houston TX, who posts EXACTLY like he does. I'd be willing to bet every dollar that I have right now that this guy never actually worked 1 day in healthcare. I've seen this exact behavior enough times to know to seriously doubt who he says he is.

I agree 100%. I’ve seen this in some anesthesia social media. People appear and post politicized talking points and try to create hostility. I wonder if it’s an organized effort or random people with too much time and no friends.

[Guest219794]

9 hours ago, loveanesthesia said:

I agree 100%. I’ve seen this in some anesthesia social media. People appear and post politicized talking points and try to create hostility. I wonder if it’s an organized effort or random people with too much time and no friends.

Both.

Sad that mods here now have to deal with this. Not what they signed up for. But, unfortunate reality.
Social media moderators are now faced with a choice of controlling certain posters, or allowing posters to control an entire forum.

[MarkMyWords]

I just wish to clarify what I said.

By hysteria, I meant it in a facetious way, not literally. Closer to mass obsession, not in usual sense. Of course, NOT including the medical profession, whom the nation touts as heroes. Where I live, some people act like everyone has leprosy or worse. Yes, some are very fearful of strangers, even touching their money. Television news tries to scare. Big difference between prudent caution and outright fear or phobia to leave the home.

Courage is not always a virtue. It could be a vice or moral fault. Too much courage is foolhardy, maybe stupid. It is subjective. Some people feel brave without a mask, confident, optimistic as non-conformist. Their non-compliance may (or may not) endanger the health of others. And they hate the feel and look of masks. others like me cannot hear well with/without masks and it diminishes my breathing. General public doesn't care about that at all. I've said enough...

I have been a risk-taker all my life but don't recommend it. Let's all try to enjoy life, with the restrictions, even in this pandemic.

[loveanesthesia]

2 minutes ago, Mywords1 said:

I just wish to clarify what I said.

By hysteria, I meant it in a facetious way, not literally. Closer to mass obsession, not in usual sense. Of course, NOT including the medical profession, whom the nation touts as heroes. Where I live, some people act like everyone has leprosy or worse. Yes, some are very fearful of strangers, even touching their money. Television news tries to scare. Big difference between prudent caution and outright fear or phobia to leave the home.

Courage is not always a virtue. It could be a vice or moral fault. Too much courage is foolhardy, maybe stupid. It is subjective. Some people feel brave without a mask, confident, optimistic as non-conformist. Their non-compliance may (or may not) endanger the health of others. And they hate the feel and look of masks. others like me cannot hear well with/without masks and it diminishes my breathing. General public doesn't care about that at all. I've said enough...

I have been a risk-taker all my life but don't recommend it. Let's all try to enjoy life, with the restrictions, even in this pandemic.

This is the next phase of the social media highjack. Someone who sounds more reasonable, and not overtly offensive, posts supporting the OP. Makes it seem like a reasonable discussion of 'is the earth flat? we have to consider all opinions'. The keys to this particular post "medical profession, whom the nation touts as heroes" "Their non-compliance may (or may not) endanger the health of others."

FACTS

-the earth is not flat

-the medical profession is the most knowledgeable about health

-non-compliance with mask wearing does endanger the health of others

[JadedCPN, BSN, RN]

3 hours ago, Mywords1 said:

. others like me cannot hear well with/without masks and it diminishes my breathing. General public doesn't care about that at all. I've said enough....

OK I will bite...Perhaps I misunderstood, but I’m curious how wearing a mask impacts your ability to hear well?

[Wuzzie]

2 minutes ago, JadedCPN said:

OK I will bite...Perhaps I misunderstood, but I’m curious how wearing a mask impacts your ability to hear well?

I think the poster meant they can't hear others well because of their masks. We are running into that on phone triage.

[sevensonnets]

OP, I'm not known for lengthy diatribes on this site, as I tend to be a very succinct person, and I'm not going to deviate from that now. To equate refusing to wear a mask to protect others for the common good when people all around you are dying of COVID 19 as some sort of courageous act AND to say that virtue is moral fault possibly even stupid, is a new low. My father landed on Omaha Beach with the first Army Infantry Division in World War II and my brother died on the battlefield in Viet Nam on his 19th birthday. They did what was right and courageous for the common good, and my brother paid for that courageous act with his life. Courage is always doing what is right and let the consequences follow.

[JadedCPN, BSN, RN]

6 hours ago, Wuzzie said:

I think the poster meant they can't hear others well because of their masks. We are running into that on phone triage.

Thank you for clarifying!! Sorry to that poster for my misunderstanding. Yes I actually agree with this, we had an issue recently during a code actually.

[Guest219794]

6 hours ago, Mywords1 said:

I just wish to clarify what I said.

By hysteria, I meant it in a facetious way, not literally. Closer to mass obsession, not in usual sense. Of course, NOT including the medical profession, whom the nation touts as heroes. Where I live, some people act like everyone has leprosy or worse. Yes, some are very fearful of strangers, even touching their money. Television news tries to scare. Big difference between prudent caution and outright fear or phobia to leave the home.

Courage is not always a virtue. It could be a vice or moral fault. Too much courage is foolhardy, maybe stupid. It is subjective. Some people feel brave without a mask, confident, optimistic as non-conformist. Their non-compliance may (or may not) endanger the health of others. And they hate the feel and look of masks. others like me cannot hear well with/without masks and it diminishes my breathing. General public doesn't care about that at all. I've said enough...

I have been a risk-taker all my life but don't recommend it. Let's all try to enjoy life, with the restrictions, even in this pandemic.

11 hours ago, Mywords1 said:

I just wish to clarify what I said.

By hysteria, I meant it in a facetious way, not literally. Closer to mass obsession, not in usual sense. Of course, NOT including the medical profession, whom the nation touts as heroes. Where I live, some people act like everyone has leprosy or worse. Yes, some are very fearful of strangers, even touching their money. Television news tries to scare. Big difference between prudent caution and outright fear or phobia to leave the home.

Courage is not always a virtue. It could be a vice or moral fault. Too much courage is foolhardy, maybe stupid. It is subjective. Some people feel brave without a mask, confident, optimistic as non-conformist. Their non-compliance may (or may not) endanger the health of others. And they hate the feel and look of masks. others like me cannot hear well with/without masks and it diminishes my breathing. General public doesn't care about that at all. I've said enough...

I have been a risk-taker all my life but don't recommend it. Let's all try to enjoy life, with the restrictions, even in this pandemic.

This is a nursing site. What are your qualifications that make your opinion worth considering? I don't mean this in a rude way. Unless I missed something (I may have) you are not a nurse, addressing nurses regarding health policies. It would be helpful to know your field of expertise so that I know why I, as a nurse, should consider yourt opinion.

I instruct a bunch of stuff. When I do, I give a bit about my background so that folks understand why what I have to say matters.

So, when you say "non-compliance may (or may not) endanger the health of others", you are in direct disagreement with the consensus of experts. do you have any grounding for this?

I also hate wearing a mask. When not working I often opt out of certain things if wearing a mask would be prudent. World wide pandemics are certainly inconvenient.

[GrumpyRN, NP]

Schrödinger's asthmatic. Their asthma is so bad that they don't want to wear a mask, while simultaneously being mild enough to ignore social distancing.

"I can't breathe, better take my mask off" said no surgeon performing a 10 hour procedure, ever!! Put your mask on Karen!!

[NurseBlaq]

I'm just seeing this thread and it's ummm..... interesting. ?