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1. cost too much to transfer license from another state. About 220 bucks just for me to transfer my RN license since I am moving to another state. Lame. it's not like ive performed any crimes in the past few months.
2. Phd in nursing- LOL? Who would get a phd in nursing? it is not like it is as an elaborate field as chemistry, biology, or psychology. WHAT A JOKE. This is pretty much just a bullbeat way to try to OVERLEGITIMIZE the nursing profession. What are you performing double blind controlled studies on.... HOW TO GIVE A BEDBATH OR BREAK THE SEAL ON THE ASPIRIN TABLET???? Keep it simple folks.
3. Overcomplication- nurses are probably the worst at over complicating things. I remember back in undergraduate, we were taught those elaborate care plans. Do you know what care plans are? GARBAGE. You never use them and nobody cares about them. Unless you are one of those old hags with a Phd IN NURSING..... You know what else is dumb. NURSING DIAGNOSES. you know what those are? cheap copies of medical diagnoses, aka nurses trying to legitimize themselves with medicine. I remember having to come up with these stupid things. IMPAIRED NUTRITION SECONDARY TO DIFFICULTY SWALLOWING. ARE YOU KIDDING ME, NO CRAP, IF YOU CANT SWALLOW YOU CANT EAT. NO CRAP ROFL. I also remember the nursing skills manual. 10 pages on HOW TO FOLD A FREAKING WASHCLOTH AND MAKE A BED. Go home overcomplicators, go home.
I also remember having to learn indepth about diagnoses such as cardiac tamponade. WHENS THE LAST TIME YOU PAGED THE DOCTOR AT 3 AM "Hey I think this patient is in cardiac tamponade, you know when they stick the tampon in lemonaide???" ARE YOU KIDDING ME... NEVER.
I could go on and on about point 3.
Overcomplication is a simple way to try to self-legitimize. Something the PHD level nurses are professionals at. Good professionals simplify as much as they can, not do this garbage.
2. Phd in nursing- LOL? Who would get a phd in nursing? it is not like it is as an elaborate field as chemistry, biology, or psychology. WHAT A JOKE. This is pretty much just a bullbeat way to try to OVERLEGITIMIZE the nursing profession. What are you performing double blind controlled studies on.... HOW TO GIVE A BEDBATH OR BREAK THE SEAL ON THE ASPIRIN TABLET???? Keep it simple folks.
One of my personal inspirations in nursing is Bernice Coleman, PhD, RN, an Acute Care NP, lead heart transplant NP at Cedars-Sinai. Yes, that PhD is in Nursing, from UCLA. What does she do with that Nursing PhD? She was the first nurse accepted into Cedars-Sinai Clinical Scholars Program. She has a grant from the NIH, studying inflammatory genes and differences in survival rates after heart transplant in African Americans and Caucasians. She did her post-doc in the Histocompatibility Laboratory at Cedars-Sinai, studying cytokine gene polymorphisms and ethnic differences in survival rates. When I look at the listed dissertations from PhD candidates at UCLA Nursing's website, I see other nurse-scientists carrying out similar types of studies. The same goes for other nursing PhD programs. While many students do focus on biophysical areas, others focus on equally important psychosocial matters related to nursing and optimizing patient outcomes.
To sum up, I'm just glad to know that actual student nurse-scientists aren't as you caricature them. But thanks for the laugh, as always.
I don't read nursing journals too much anymore, either. No matter what condition they talk about, they usually add something like "The nurse will perform a careful assessment and document all findings." Really?Then there's always some personal story about how a nurse spent extra time with a patient or else blew off a patient's concerns. The moral of the story is how you should take time to listen carefully to your patients. No kidding! And by the way, if you don't have your BSN yet, your patients are dropping like flies. Nowadays, I take a cursory glance at the journals that show up for free.
LOL! If only staff of the journals and phd nurses could take this comment in and let it marinate..
Wow can you guys not tell that this OP has put very little time into his posts and has succeeded in eliting an 82 comment response? I actually partially agree with him, much of nursing is fluff, but the context of how he/she states it is somewhat too harsh. I also find humor in the people who have gotten angry with him/her and thrown attacks out at him/her, obviously he/she does not care, and you are more than likely just fueling the fire and inspiring future trolliness. Lol suckers.I just joined and Don't like to comment but I could not resist this. LOl!
Well, OP hasn't exactly gone to great lengths to try to disguise his penchant for stirring the pot.. It is kind of obvious.
You know, members might have other motivations to respond to him than being angry. If I was inclined to actually let what people post anonymously on the internet affect me on a deeper level I think it would be you that made me annoyed rather than OP. OP is just trying hard to provoke a response (I actually find his machinations mildly amusing ) whereas you seem to assume that people are naïve or stupid and can't see what's right before their eyes.
Again, OP's motivation is pretty transparent and if anyone had any doubt there's always his avatar... A subtle clue.. All that's missing is a flashing neon sign I think most people has the OP figured out.
trolling or not, he does present a good point; nursing is overcomplicated when it doesn't need to be and fluffy for no reason. almost like a child playing to be the big boy in the eyes of the physicians (imagine if they will look at our care plans or nursing diagnosis. they will think it's a joke). DNP part, I respect them and sure we can put good use with DNP, but personally I would might as well get MD instead of DNP.
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A bachelors isn't required for NP and lots of programs accept ADN RNs into their NP programs.So the standards are even worse? Nice.
Students accepted into NP school without BSN, complete that level coursework as part of the NP bridge undergrad program. Some programs grant BSN; others just provide MSN upon graduation -FNP earned upon taking credentialing exam.
RN-MSN Entry - Vanderbilt University School of Nursing
RN to MSN Degree Programs by State
Degrees Granted
- The majority of RN to MSN programs award both a bachelor's in the science of nursing (BSN) and MSN; many institutions confer the BSN upon completion of required coursework while others confer both degrees after the completion of BSN and MSN coursework.
- Some RN to MSN programs award the BSN after fulfillment of bachelor's degree requirements.
- Some programs award only the MSN upon completion of the overall dual-degree program coursework.
- Most of the programs are accelerated, meaning that:
- ADN- and hospital diploma-prepared RNs may achieve both the BSN and MSN content in less than three years whereas the traditional pathway (BSN followed by MSN) requires longer for completion.
- RN to MSN students may enroll concurrently in BSN and MSN courses, which are sometimes referred to as "bridge courses."
So the standards are even worse? Nice.
From what I've seen, many, if not most schools that offer an ADN to MSN pathway confer the BSN degree as part of the program, and those that don't still require a "bridge" curriculum that includes the BSN courses, but only confers the MSN degree at the conclusion of the program. Some programs also take ADN graduates that have a bachelors degree in a non-nursing field. Most NP programs require a BSN degree.
OP wants to make her own FNP school: https://allnurses.com/pre-nurse-practitioner/we-should-make-924075.html
OP - i was just laughing until there were tears in my eyes. so funny "when the tampon's in the lemonade" LOL
anyway, i do agree that we're over complicating things at times. i'm not sure i agree that people need a doctorate of nursing...but people who do clinical teaching should have a masters. i don't even think that bedside nurses need a bachelors, but that's another thread :)
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I can't wait to read the comments lol.
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