why nursing is a mess. three simple facts

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1. cost too much to transfer license from another state. About 220 bucks just for me to transfer my RN license since I am moving to another state. Lame. it's not like ive performed any crimes in the past few months.

2. Phd in nursing- LOL? Who would get a phd in nursing? it is not like it is as an elaborate field as chemistry, biology, or psychology. WHAT A JOKE. This is pretty much just a bullbeat way to try to OVERLEGITIMIZE the nursing profession. What are you performing double blind controlled studies on.... HOW TO GIVE A BEDBATH OR BREAK THE SEAL ON THE ASPIRIN TABLET???? Keep it simple folks.

3. Overcomplication- nurses are probably the worst at over complicating things. I remember back in undergraduate, we were taught those elaborate care plans. Do you know what care plans are? GARBAGE. You never use them and nobody cares about them. Unless you are one of those old hags with a Phd IN NURSING..... You know what else is dumb. NURSING DIAGNOSES. you know what those are? cheap copies of medical diagnoses, aka nurses trying to legitimize themselves with medicine. I remember having to come up with these stupid things. IMPAIRED NUTRITION SECONDARY TO DIFFICULTY SWALLOWING. ARE YOU KIDDING ME, NO CRAP, IF YOU CANT SWALLOW YOU CANT EAT. NO CRAP ROFL. I also remember the nursing skills manual. 10 pages on HOW TO FOLD A FREAKING WASHCLOTH AND MAKE A BED. Go home overcomplicators, go home.

I also remember having to learn indepth about diagnoses such as cardiac tamponade. WHENS THE LAST TIME YOU PAGED THE DOCTOR AT 3 AM "Hey I think this patient is in cardiac tamponade, you know when they stick the tampon in lemonaide???" ARE YOU KIDDING ME... NEVER.

I could go on and on about point 3.

Overcomplication is a simple way to try to self-legitimize. Something the PHD level nurses are professionals at. Good professionals simplify as much as they can, not do this garbage.

Specializes in Home Health.

I agree with the fees. I need to get my TN nursing license, but I don't have the $200+ it requires to obtain. I'll get to do it again whenever I move to NC, joy. :p

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
I agree with the fees. I need to get my TN nursing license, but I don't have the $200+ it requires to obtain. I'll get to do it again whenever I move to NC, joy. :p

Greta to live in the state that I'm in....I don't even PAY that much for licensing fees; initial fee is 35; renewal is 65; I also have my LPN license; I get to pay for two licenses for the price of one in some states :eek:

I hope that helped you feel better.

So much to say....however I will address this....If you work in Trauma or cardiac surgery you make this phone call.

Yep..sure do :)

Ladyfree,

Are you sure you have to pay for both licenses? TN and NC are both compact states I think. The licenses should be reciprocal. If NC is going to be your permanent residence you could get a license there and TN should honor it.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Ladyfree,

Are you sure you have to pay for both licenses? TN and NC are both compact states I think. The licenses should be reciprocal. If NC is going to be your permanent residence you could get a license there and TN should honor it.

I don't live in those states; I was stating that I have 2 licenses (LPN and RN) in one state and they total the amount to one license for some states, which is ridiculous.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
This is news to you? Most NPs program barely have any requirements aside from your RN and maybe the GRE. A day out of nursing school most programs will accept you as long as you have your bachelors.

In some schools, one doesn't even need to be an RN to enter NP school (think grad-entry programs where some NP specialties are allowed to go straight from a bachelor's in basket-weaving to NP with zero bedside experience outside school clinicals). And the master's program at my university just did away with the GRE.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
I've seen many Acute Care NP programs requiring at least one year of acute care nursing experience, as well as Neonatal NP programs requiring 1-2 years of neonatal nursing experience. In contrast, most FNP programs don't require any RN experience.

Yeah, I want to be a Neonatal NP and yes, one is required in most programs to have a minimum of one year full-time clinical experience. Most of the students work full-time while go to school part-time so by they time they graduate, they have at about four years of bedside experience.

In some schools, one doesn't even need to be an RN to enter NP school (think grad-entry programs where some NP specialties are allowed to go straight from a bachelor's in basket-weaving to NP with zero bedside experience outside school clinicals). And the master's program at my university just did away with the GRE.

And yet they claim that they are equal to MD/DO... I personally think the game that the ANA is playing by pushing NP to become more and more independent will ultimately lead to the demise of NP/DNP... The same way an hygienist is not equal to a dentist is the same way a NP is not equal to a MD/DO regardless of any BOGUS published studies that are out there...

Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.

I remember when nsg. dx. first started; real nose-pickin' language: A Potential for Deficit in Skin Integrity. They said it helped make things clearer. But the thing is, all you had to do was look in a Thesaurus or Medical Dictionary and pick the most obscure 50-cent words you could find, and you were a genius! HA!

I made up a care plan for someone with Severe Craniorectal Impaction and Pedalepiglottal Syndrome. I had a list of about 25 of these along with outcomes.

A Deficit in Humor Management kept some of my co-workers from enjoying the fun. Too bad for them.

Specializes in Home Health.
Greta to live in the state that I'm in....I don't even PAY that much for licensing fees; initial fee is 35; renewal is 65; I also have my LPN license; I get to pay for two licenses for the price of one in some states :eek:

Where do you live? I need to move there! :p

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
And yet they claim that they are equal to MD/DO...

Who exactly is the "they" who make this claim?

I personally think the game that the ANA is playing by pushing NP to become more and more independent will ultimately lead to the demise of NP/DNP.

Obviously not. NPs already have full independence in all of the most progressive states. Its a done deal, well established, with good data as to the safety and effectiveness of NPs as independent providers. The fight now is over the laggards and most backwards of states.

Specializes in RN.
Unfortunately, academia has a vested interest in bloating higher degrees with a lot of nonsense. It's happening in other fields as well. Then, those most successful and dedicated to pursuing these bloated degrees are the ones who get jobs setting regulatory policies.

Often these folks lack practical experience in actual nursing. Instead they live in a world filled with research papers, statistical analysis, and academic fluff. This leads to them imposing their nonsense on bedside nurses through regulatory requirements, thus clogging the workplace and and actually impeding patient care.

Very well stated!! Ditto!

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