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I have not seen anyone call a DNP 'doctor' in a healthcare setting... Have you?

Can you tell me what are the states that NP have the right to admit their own patients in a hospital? That is why I like my state--we are still very conservative here....

When are DNP going to demand to be called doctors in healthcare settings? When are they going to demand to have hospital privilege?

This NP put it better than I can...

I know it's a race to the bottom.. As long as you can come with stupid studies that claim 'equal outcomes' (whatever that is), these legislators will make you become physician-like... However, they will demand care from a physician when their love ones are sick... I guess the fake physicians are for the masses...

Ok guys/gals... I will be busy studying for my psych shelf exam, I will come back in a few days for another 'spirited' discussion...

I know multiple FNP/PA who did that...

Talk about someone who is complaining about me giving anecdotes...Lol... Anyway you made my point about these FM residents--that was why they were 'residents'--not full-blown physicians.

I guess they don't understand.... I don't have any personal animosity against NP... And I won't mind if NP practice medicine under the supervision of a MD/DO for a few years... You have NP/PA who work for a few years in FM, then move on to work in psych, then again move on to another specialty.... Do you really think the are the best way to deliver medical care when NP schools don't prepare them for that... A physician has to be board certified in one specialty, and no malpractice insurance will cover you if you are an OBGYN and you want to do ortho... I am glad you get what I am saying. I have no problems against NP, but when your leaders do not look at the big pictures, and think about only one thing, they might do damage to your profession...

Major university does not mean anything to me... I got my BSN at a good state university and after 4 years working as a nurse, I decided to back to school so I can become a NP. I looked at a couple my state universities NP curricula I thought they must require more than that... then I called a former classmate who did her NP at one of these state schools right after getting her BSN; I asked if they require some more prereqs and I was shocked when se said no... I knew she only took high school chem, no general bio etc... and she told me these classes are not needed... I asked her if i had to take grad level A/P and she told me the AP we took in undergrad was enough... I was shocked to say the least! I worked with a NP who became a physician (DO)... and I asked her opinion about NPs and she told me that NP can practice medicine, but she had very limited knowledge as a NP... and told me now looking back she thinks the NPs education she received was a joke (she was a NP for over 10 years, really)... It was amazing to hear that from a former NP... It was then I started doing more research and talked with physicians who have NP in their practices (they were very candid), and found out that NP was not for me... I just don't want to practice medicine, I just want to have the knowledge to practice medicine.

I consider all NP schools diploma mills unless they change these curricula..

Not in every industry... Med school is different!

You guys think your bogus studies along with screaming 'equal outcomes' from the roof of a tall building will make it so...You might fool some people with these nonsense, but you won't fool people who know about medicine... None of you have answered the concerns of that poster (post #487)...

A frat boy? Wrong... I think undergrad stats is required by state schools in my state to get a BSN... I even took Stochastic model, which is on a league of its own... I am not doing a contest here about classes and so on... i know a little bit about research since I am doing research now in med school and I might publish if I am lucky... It is not about that... It is about a profession that is taking the wrong turn and one can only get way with so much... Good luck if you think your profession is heading in the right direction...

I really need an NP to school me on scientific process...