Now this....the crazy just keeps getting crazier

toomuchbaloney · Jul 16, 2020

Why would people believe an administration that lies to the public on a routine and regular basis, about anything or everything?

emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Jul 16, 2020

And here we go, the beginning of information suppression. If you go to the hhs website & click on data, it routes you to the CDC website where there is now less information available.

“Following the Trump administration’s decision to reroute coronavirus hospital data first to the administration, instead of sending it to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, some data is no longer available on the CDC.gov website.

The information removed from the website is the hospital data that was reported to the CDC’s National Healthcare Safety Network, according to CDC spokesperson Kristen Nordlund.

The data includes...

the current inpatient and intensive care unit bed occupancy

Health care worker staffing

Personal protective equipment supply status and availability

The information appeared on the National Healthcare Safety Network Covid-19 module page and the CDC’s Covid-19 data tracker.”

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-07-16-20-intl/h_a2f3cf2d40ea823e143aa4222f25e0d7

toomuchbaloney · Jul 16, 2020

The USA will now be engaged in providing propagandized COVID data to the world. Lack of accurate numbers will help to push children into schools and the working poor into unsafe work environments.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jul 17, 2020

CNN

HHS directs CDC to put Covid-related hospital data back on its website

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On Thursday morning, HHS said it was directing the agency to put the data back up.
HHS is committed to being transparent with the American public about the information it is collecting on the coronavirus. Therefore, HHS has directed CDC to re-establish the coronavirus dashboards it withdrew from the public on Wednesday," Assistant Secretary of Public Affairs Michael Caputo said Thursday.
"Going forward, HHS and CDC will deliver more powerful insights on the coronavirus, powered by HHS Protect," said Caputo. HHS Protect is the department's coronavirus information center.
The White House has been asking hospitals to provide the coronavirus data on a daily basis since March.
The dashboard modules were restored Thursday. CDC has also added language to its website saying the data would not be updated past July 14....
...The information was on the National Healthcare Safety Network Covid-19 module page and the CDC's Covid-19 data tracker.
Public health experts had objected vociferously to HHS's decision to bypass CDC.
"Given how political the response has been to date, it's a step backwards to have these data going directly to HHS in Washington," former CDC interim director Dr. Richard Besser told CNN.
"The disruption that they're going to create, and confusion simply telling people to do something different in the middle of a disaster -- that does not work," American Public Health Association Executive Director Dr. Georges Benjamin told CNN....
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/health/hhs-CDC-coronavirus-data-website/index.html

allnurses Guide · Jul 17, 2020

CDC Director Dr. Robert R. Redfield and HHS Chief Information Officer Jose Arrieta Remarks on HHS Protect

On Wednesday, July 15, CDC Director Robert Redfield and HHS Chief Information Officer Jose Arrieta provided an update for members of the media on HHS efforts to gather and disseminate real-time hospital data on COVID-19. Below are their statements as prepared for delivery...

https://www.CDC.gov/media/releases/2020/s0716-covid-19-data.html

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Updated July 16, 2020 CASES, DATA & SURVEILLANCE: Cases and Deaths in the U.S.
TOTAL CASES 3,483,83267,404 New Cases*
TOTAL DEATH 136,938947 New Deaths*
*Compared to yesterday's data
https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html

5 minutes ago, herring_RN said:
error double post

toomuchbaloney · Jul 17, 2020

They are very professional at trying to make this look as little like data manipulation by a corrupt administration as is possible.

Chazzie_Made_It, ADN · Jul 17, 2020

And now this....

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/politics/white-house-CDC-house-testimony-schools/index.html

From the article:

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"Dr. Redfield has testified on the Hill at least four times over the last three months. We need our doctors focused on the pandemic response," a White House official said, confirming the decision to block the CDC's participation in the hearing.
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"We asked for anyone at CDC who could testify at the hearing. The invite was not for Dr. Redfield or no one," the official said.
House Education and Labor Chairman Bobby Scott said the testimony from CDC officials is critical to understanding how scientists would manage the reopening of US schools.
"It is alarming that the Trump administration is preventing the CDC from appearing before the Committee at a time when its expertise and guidance is so critical to the health and safety of students, parents, and educators," the Virginia Democrat said in a statement.

More insanity.

jobellestarr · Jul 17, 2020

On 7/14/2020 at 7:07 PM, PGrabby said:
this is ridiculous.
The CDC is chock full of infectious disease experts, PHD's, statisticians, public health experts and the like. HHS is an administrative wing largely managing Medicare /Medicaid policy.
HHS is "led" by two Trump loyalists that know nothing about any of this. The ONLY reason for this would be political manipulation at the expense of the citizenry.

The CDC is under HHS. But I fully agree as always there is punishment with trump if you have a differing opinion and/or basing information on fact instead of going along with his bats... crazy ideas. I’m not sure how we get our info or if it’s going to be transparent or not. I’m a former federal infection control officer and this scares the hell out of me. I am hoping the hospitals are keeping secret records on this.

subee, MSN, CRNA · Jul 18, 2020

On 7/14/2020 at 6:09 PM, juniper222 said:
The data is being sent to HHS, not some "secret" Trump facility.

Well, yes. It's not a poorly kept secret that the leaders of HHS have been replaced with Trump's tools. Azar doesn't deserve our respect. His previous position as a pharmaceutical lobbyist should, all by itself, disqualify him for the job. So yes, he is there because he has proven that he can keep a secret.

BSN-to-MSN, ADN, BSN, RN · Jul 19, 2020

Mass hysteria continues.

macawake, MSN · Jul 19, 2020

We were discussing this at work the other day. I’m a European nurse and until now there have been two countries with major outbreaks whose statistics we don’t trust to be accurate; Russia and Iran. Now we’re added another country which we regard with scepticism. It doesn’t take a genius to smell a rat here.

You have an election coming up. The polls do not look good for the imcumbent. The rising death toll from the pandemic is a liability. The surge in new infections in many states make it harder to sell the chosen strategy of opening up again.

They say that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. It started like this almost four years ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/22/trump-inauguration-crowd-sean-spicers-claims-versus-the-evidence

And it has continued in the same vein ever since.

toomuchbaloney · Jul 19, 2020

18 minutes ago, macawake said:
We were discussing this at work the other day. I’m a European nurse and until now there have been two countries with major outbreaks whose statistics we don’t trust to be accurate; Russia and Iran. Now we’re added another country which we regard with scepticism. It doesn’t take a genius to smell a rat here.
You have an election coming up. The polls do not look good for the imcumbent. The rising death toll from the pandemic is a liability. The surge in new infections in many states make it harder to sell the chosen strategy of opening up again.

They say that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. It started like this almost four years ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/22/trump-inauguration-crowd-sean-spicers-claims-versus-the-evidence
And it has continued in the same vein ever since.

Exactly.

No one should be surprised that the American pandemic response would be based entirely in lies, confusion, corruption and incompetence. It is the pattern of the President's narcissistic life. Yet we were. I don't think that many were prepared for him to be SO narcissistic that he wouldn't follow the common sense recommendations of the scientists paid by tax payers to guide us through a pandemic they knew would eventually occur.

I have a little bit of experience in public health and regional pandemic planning and response. This is so alarming for me. I cannot imagine the stress that public health and acute care health professionals are experiencing at this point. I'm glad that my state is not overwhelmed yet and that I am retired. We're getting some mask mandates.