ladycody

Do you think the lock downs were necessary? I personally do. We were so overwhelmed with patients and that was WITH measures in place to reduce spread. I know people, however, (including some in health-care but not those that were on the front line of Covid) that think it was all a bunch of BS and should never have been implemented. Looking for thoughts from others in the field that saw what it did to hospitals and their staff.

She was reckless. Incompetence would indicate she didn't have the skills needed to do the job. She absolutely had the skills and CHOSE not to use them. She, by her own testimony, was not stressed, overtired, under pressure, a victim of short staffing, in an emergent situation, etc. While there very well may have been some learned complacency in action...that doesn't lessen accountability. IF ANYTHING, it shows that nurses across the spectrum should refuse unsafe assignments instead of signing a sheet of protestation. We need to prevent fatigue syndromes because we ARE held to reasonable expectations. We need to stop making it easy for hospitals to continue shirking THEIR responsibilities to us. Our hospitals would fix issues far more quickly if nurses banded together and just said "no" to unsafe conditions. This nurse's potential ramifications set an example of expectation and those expectations are reasonable. This was not a mistake. This wasn't driving down the road and falling asleep at the wheel without even realizing it. This was doing 80 in a school zone during recess. The differences are clear. While we are allowed to be human and to make mistakes, the public has a right to expect that we will be held accountable for gross negligence....which this was by all reports.

Just wanted to offer a little bit of hope in that I've seen two come off the vent and be mostly OK. One wound up with an amp... and I've no idea what other long term issues they'll be dealing with...but both were fully conversant with decent mobility. They certainly weren't what they were before covid...but they didn't make you wonder if death might have been a blessing...which is how it feels for so many. Just know there can be a rare decent recovery. It helps to have hope I think.

What is everyone seeing in your hospitalized COVID patients with regard to vaccination status? For hospitalization in general? What about specifically sever disease (ICU)?

1). Did you mean your comprehension? 2). The OP was saying he/she was done with the unvaccinated in her life... personal life...as evidenced by the examples given. That does NOT equate to providing substandard care on the job. Ridiculous assumption. There are many from all walks of life that we intentionally distance ourselves from for a variety of reasons...but that does not mean they won't receive excellent care when in our hospitals. Apparently you DID need clarification on what was and wasn't said because your comprehensive seemed subpar in this particular instance?

For as much as ivermectin has not, based on a few recent studies in India and elsewhere, been shown to impact Covid progression, I DO wish people would stop calling it a horse dewormer. It's used on humans as well and is not just a vet med. Referring to it as such causes doubt and distrust in science when we don't acknowledge reality. Are people using the veterinary version?-yep...and that's a problem for sure...but we wouldn't call Augmentin a vet antibiotic if used. It's just makes the rhetoric people are listening to disingenuous...which does zero to help change people's minds.

This is a ridiculous comparison. It doesn't even qualify as a comparison.

Cardiac, diabetic, hep, HIVsmokers...none of those patients shut down surgeries, impact patient care and critical care services, and fatigue healthcare workers like Covid does in a surge. They don't fill up hospitals in ways that incapacitate the facility's ability to offer care for patients. Yes...many hospitals will go on diversion when they are busy with a VARIETY of patients...but this one virus can single handedly shutter services. The response of many healthcare workers is not always rooted in judgement but has everything to do with the moral injury and fatigue of the PEOPLE...the humans...with all their complex emotions and stressors and pain...who have dealt with this disease. And not all of them have the stamina to do it all over again. They have my compassion.

HIPAA keeps getting hauled out into conversations revolving around Covid vaccination policies. Can we all....as nurses for whom understanding and agreeing to follow HIPAA is an integral part of licensure and employment in this field ...can we all take a moment or two to make sure we understand what, exactly, HIPAA actually IS before using it in a discussion?!?!? It's frightening how many seem to have NO IDEA what the heck it is... but reference it with attitude and all sorts of incorrectly appropriated indignation. ? It's embarrassing....stop it. Do some learnin.

I think that there is definitely a group of people that are in doubt...for a number of reasons...and that THAT group is reachable. However I think those that believe the government is out to get them and that the vaccine is a tool for that purpose is not the VERY small subset that you think it is. I actually think it's MUCH larger than most people realize...at least for now. They have just mostly (with a few exceptions) gone to ground and are not readily visible to those not scrolling through off beat social media sites. My area has the small subset you reference...but there are areas of the country that have a MUCH higher percentage of that group and those areas are likely to be a red hot Covid mess at some point...case in point Florida...and there are states even more at risk come fall/Winter. Admittedly just speculation...but I have been stunned by the tenacity of this groups belief system...and rational thought plays no part in it. Really...only time will tell.

Anyone know how long it's taking NY to issue licenses? Applied at the beginning of May....it's been 8 weeks and there's no way to reach out and ask a live person. (I sent one email with no response).

Anyone know how long it's taking NY to issue licenses? Applied at the beginning of May....it's been 8 weeks and there's no way to reach out and ask a live person. (I sent one email with no response)

How problematic are esophageal strictures for anesthesia (if at all)? Problem area is higher up...can hear it at throat level...but surgeon (back surgery) says it's fine because it's not the trachea. I get the anatomy tvm...?...but wanted to hear the from someone who actually would have to deal with it (or not...will be thrilled if it's really not any sort of consideration). There hasn't been an opportunity to speak with gastro yet and it's been dilated twice so far and is acting up again...alot. Thanks in advance!

I hate typos that make me look like a dope...and posts with errors I can't fix...like this one....rofl. apologies for all of the above ? Tried to just delete and it's not an option.

You are certainly not alone. I have family and friends that live in the land of BS....and it's at the point where I'm willing to cut ties with many. I'm incredibly disappointed with humanity right now and it feels like a personal betrayal when those you've been close to are voicing bull or are anti mask...having big family gatherings etc.... contributing to the crap conditions that healthcare workers are dealing with. So forget strangers...I have ZERO patience there: got into the elevator with one of the maintenance guys at our hospital who asked me where my specialty bed was going and I said a patient who is mostly immobile with a temp of 101. He asked if she was covid and when I said no he said "well she will be." Couldn't help it...said "oh...you're one of those" ....with my outside voice. ? He said "well they're all covid by the time they leave" and I countered with "pretty sure you're not seeing patient charts...or what disnosises and codes are entered...and I can personally tell you that they're NOT all covid by the time they leave....but we should probably stop this particular conversation now-ish...because it won't end well." He works there...sees the staff miserable and is able to talk to them..sees patients on vents...sees how busy we are...and still spreads misinformation like he has insider knowledge to confirm his BS. I could have smacked him. He took the dang vaccine though.... Yeah... you're not alone. And that little rant didn't actually make me feel better...but knowing others are in the same boat helps a bit for sure.