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Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/03/clark-eastman-fifth-amendment/
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-January-election-results-trump-1658076
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
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On 10/11/2022 at 12:02 PM, heron said:Suspect it was a typo intended to read “talking” - conveniently ignoring the fact that it was Putin who threatened to use tactical nukes, prompting pushback from Biden.
Hess threatening to use them precisely because of Biden and the lefts apparent willingness to go to war with Russia. Kids are now doing duck and cover drills again. Biden has been spending money on anti-radiation measures.
6 hours ago, subee said:You are correct. Another renegade from Harvard Law. Justice systems have their own failures and he was one. At least he died as a recognized humanitarian for his work. Trump certainly won't:)
Actually he’s only recognized as Sandy Burglar
47 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:Hess threatening to use them precisely because of Biden and the lefts apparent willingness to go to war with Russia. Kids are now doing duck and cover drills again. Biden has been spending money on anti-radiation measures.
Actually he’s only recognized as Sandy Burglar
Wrong - Putin is threatening to use tactical nukes because Ukraine dared to fight back and the rest of Europe and the US agree with them. He thought that his usual bullying and lying would scare the world into standing quiet the way we did when he took Crimea.
Surprise!
3 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:Hess threatening to use them precisely because of Biden and the lefts apparent willingness to go to war with Russia. Kids are now doing duck and cover drills again. Biden has been spending money on anti-radiation measures.
Actually he’s only recognized as Sandy Burglar
That's an odd opinion as to why Putin is threatening to use nuclear weapons. Maybe you could flesh that thinking out a bit. Is there some reporting or analysis of current and historic events which color your thinking?
4 hours ago, heron said:Wrong - Putin is threatening to use tactical nukes because Ukraine dared to fight back and the rest of Europe and the US agree with them. He thought that his usual bullying and lying would scare the world into standing quiet the way we did when he took Crimea.
Surprise!
Wrong.
Zelenski and Putin were willing to negotiate. Until, all of a sudden Zelenski stated the negotiation required a regime change. Likely at the insistence of the ole US of A.
While many are preoccupied with Trump hatred and making sure their fear of him running again for President isn't realized, the current administration is leading us to war with Russia.
Trump isn't nearly as scary and dangerous as the many things going on in the current administration.
1 hour ago, Beerman said:Trump isn't nearly as scary and dangerous as the many things going on in the current administration.
Please watch tomorrows January 6th Committee hearing, 1PM EST
This Jan 6th hearing will show new Secret Service surveillance video and records showing Trump knew about violence occurring January 6th, and sought to flame it posting on Twitter 10 minutes post Pence escorted from the Senate floor:
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Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021
Washington Post 10/12/22
New evidence to show Trump was warned of violence on Jan. 6
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... Surveillance footage the committee plans to share was taken near the Ellipse that morning before Trump’s speech and shows throngs of his supporters clustered just outside the corralled area for his “Stop the Steal” rally. Secret Service officers screened those entering who sought to get closer to the stage. Law enforcement officials who were monitoring video that morning spotted Trump supporters with plastic shields, bulletproof vests and other paramilitary gear, and some in the Secret Service concluded they stayed outside the rally area to avoid having their weapons confiscated, according to people familiar with the new records....
...The newly obtained Secret Service records are just part of a larger hearing in which the committee hopes to summarize and remind the American public of all the ways Trump is said to have played a central role in fomenting a violent insurrection at the Capitol, one of the most brutal attacks on democracy in U.S. history, according to multiple people briefed on the evidence and committee plan.
4 hours ago, Beerman said:Wrong.
While many are preoccupied with Trump hatred and making sure their fear of him running again for President isn't realized, the current administration is leading us to war with Russia.
Personally, I hope he does run for president. It's a lot harder to cry rigged after a Biden landslide than it is about a few close battleground states.
Also, there has never been a coalition larger and more enduring than this on one side of a major conflict, probably ever.
When you say Biden is leading "us" to war with Russia, who is the "us" in your opinion? Do you imagine if Biden turned his back on Ukraine, NATO, the EU and countries adjacent to Russia would just roll over?
5 hours ago, Beerman said:Wrong.
Zelenski and Putin were willing to negotiate. Until, all of a sudden Zelenski stated the negotiation required a regime change. Likely at the insistence of the ole US of A.
While many are preoccupied with Trump hatred and making sure their fear of him running again for President isn't realized, the current administration is leading us to war with Russia.
Trump isn't nearly as scary and dangerous as the many things going on in the current administration.
Maybe you could expand upon the thinking that is represented in the bolded section. I think that negotiations fell apart because it's nearly impossible to negotiate in food faith with tyrants, and Putin is a tyrant. But maybe you consume different reporting and analysis of the events and could share that point of view.
Please watch the Select Committee hearing tomorrow. Maybe you'll find some interesting details about Trump and that historic attempt to undermine our presidential election results. The thought of losing our democratic republic is scary.
3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Maybe you could expand upon the thinking that is represented in the bolded section. I think that negotiations fell apart because it's nearly impossible to negotiate in food faith with tyrants, and Putin is a tyrant. But maybe you consume different reporting and analysis of the events and could share that point of view.
Please watch the Select Committee hearing tomorrow. Maybe you'll find some interesting details about Trump and that historic attempt to undermine our presidential election results. The thought of losing our democratic republic is scary.
The entire post is a deflection off the topic of whether Trump participated in trying to overthrow the American government or "democrats trying to assure he doesn't run in 2024". I might agree that "leading America to War with Russia" might be more dangerous than overthrowing the US government, but it's an entirely different topic designed to take attention away from Trump.
Putin put lip service to wanting peace and negations but that's all it was, he never intended to negotiate. Almost sounds silly "let's bomb Ukraine...oh and we're willing to negotiate and make peace".
I think today's final hearing, no matter what it says isn't going to make a difference. They could have a film of him saying "the election was false and I'm raising an Army to overthrow the government on January 6th and arm them" and people wouldn't care. They would call it fake and Trump Derangement Syndrome to stop him from running for President. Or like Beerman suggested "it's at least better than anything Biden is doing".
There might be an idea that I've seen floating around that NATO and US actions years ago and leading up to the war lead to the war but that's another thread, another topic.
4 hours ago, Tweety said:The entire post is a deflection off the topic of whether Trump participated in trying to overthrow the American government or "democrats trying to assure he doesn't run in 2024". I might agree that "leading America to War with Russia" might be more dangerous than overthrowing the US government, but it's an entirely different topic designed to take attention away from Trump.
Putin put lip service to wanting peace and negations but that's all it was, he never intended to negotiate. Almost sounds silly "let's bomb Ukraine...oh and we're willing to negotiate and make peace".
I think today's final hearing, no matter what it says isn't going to make a difference. They could have a film of him saying "the election was false and I'm raising an Army to overthrow the government on January 6th and arm them" and people wouldn't care. They would call it fake and Trump Derangement Syndrome to stop him from running for President. Or like Beerman suggested "it's at least better than anything Biden is doing".
There might be an idea that I've seen floating around that NATO and US actions years ago and leading up to the war lead to the war but that's another thread, another topic.
Correct. But giving Beerman cause to actually think through the right wing commentary that he shares here in an attempt to deflect away from Trump's obvious and dangerous corruption is worthwhile...
If he responds I may ask him what is more dangerous for the USA than coddling Putin while trying to undermine democracy to install an authoritarian of our own... that was Trump's Ukraine/Russia agenda.
It is also correct that Trump voters are not swayed by the facts related to January 6 or Trump's unprecedented theft of government secrets and sensitive documents. Their fondness for the deeply flawed and erratic narcissist exceeds their fondness for law, order, honor or integrity and thus is demonstrated over and over again across the country. It's evident in these threads as the evidence of Trump's malfeasance grows.
Today we may get to learn why Tony Oranato didn't come forward to tell us all about how Cassidy Hutchinson was lying in her testimony...as @Beerman was convinced that he would. Maybe we'll learn why he quit his job rather than cooperate with the inquiry. Or maybe we'll learn more about those missing Secret Service text messages from January 6 and that criminal investigation.
Trump presided over so much chaos and corruption.
Beerman: I would love to know what the Republican agenda includes to tackle inflation. Here is an apolitical economic take on how much rescue programs accounted for our present inflation without even tackling the other issues that make the US unique in being more susceptible to inflation than smaller, more insular countries. So, please explain how Biden is worst than another term of Trump. What would Trump have done? Did Trump's pathetic handling of Covid have anything to do with inflation today? Today's hearing will enlighten us even more about the amount ot chaos that the administration created for itself and the Republicans' contributions to that chronic unrest. So no, I don't see that Republican can even tie their shoelaces much less re-invent themselves to be a grand old party.
January 6th Committee Select Committee unanimously voted to subpoena Donald J. Trump over his actions taken surrounding January 6th and failure of peaceful transfer of power.
Fox News big topic during hearing:
On CNN:
QuoteThe House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection revealed new evidence Thursday that former President Donald Trump had a premeditated plan — devised before any votes had been counted, to declare victory no matter what the election results were.
At ABC News:
At CBS:
At NBC News:
At USA Today and Newsmax:
Obvious that 1/3 -1/2 country not getting important news of the day when former President Trump is involved that impacts their ability to be a fully informed voter.
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