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Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/03/clark-eastman-fifth-amendment/
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-January-election-results-trump-1658076
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
Only the finest people...
Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find those stolen government documents. If you do you'll be rewarded mightily by the press...
Meanwhile, the Select Committee will resume their public discussion of the un-American activities of Trump, Meadows,, Eastman, and the presidential plot planners on October 13 at 1 pm.
2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:The DOJ could apply the law to him as they have to others who have taken government secrets.
I have no qualms with investigating his conduct related to these documents, and taking whatever action is indicated. However, this is considerably different from your suggested "restricting his freedoms."
Unless you are Edward Snowden, if one is caught with secret documents, they end up in prison when caught. He got Russian citizenship. How "lucky" is he?
"United States government security breaches" - Wikipedia - you will find a long list. I'm sorry that I can't send you an active link.
1 hour ago, subee said:Unless you are Edward Snowden, if one is caught with secret documents, they end up in prison when caught. He got Russian citizenship. How "lucky" is he?
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Or Sandy Berger.
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Rather than the “honest mistake” he described last Summer, Berger acknowledged to U.S. Magistrate Deborah Robinson that he intentionally took and deliberately destroyed three copies of the same document dealing with terror threats during the 2000 millennium celebration.
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The charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material is a misdemeanor that carries a maximum sentence of a year in prison and up to a $100,000 fine.
However, under a plea agreement that Robinson must accept, Berger would serve no jail time but instead pay a $10,000 fine, surrender his security clearance for three years and cooperate with investigators. Security clearance allows access to classified government materials.
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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find those stolen government documents. If you do you'll be rewarded mightily by the press...
Meanwhile, the Select Committee will resume their public discussion of the un-American activities of Trump, Meadows,, Eastman, and the presidential plot planners on October 13 at 1 pm.
Yawn. No one cares. Biden started king nuclear war, gas and food prices going through the roof, major recesssion going to hit. I wouldn’t be surprised if people that voted for this disaster don’t storm the capitol themselves.
6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find those stolen government documents. If you do you'll be rewarded mightily by the press...
Meanwhile, the Select Committee will resume their public discussion of the un-American activities of Trump, Meadows,, Eastman, and the presidential plot planners on October 13 at 1 pm.
I'm really looking forward to that. It still astonishes me to think that if it were not for a handful of lawyers actively intervening, Jeffrey Clark would've been Attorney General and most likely also, Kash Patel would've been Secretary of Defense.
I've always thought Meadows was the linchpin in the whole sordid mess, but doubt if we'll ever get the full story there.
7 hours ago, chare said:I have no qualms with investigating his conduct related to these documents, and taking whatever action is indicated. However, this is considerably different from your suggested "restricting his freedoms."
Not really. The fellow took government documents, some of them bearing the highest classification status imaginable. He then lied about having the documents to the FBI after playing games with NARA for more than a year. Even after a warrant retrieved an alarming number of documents of varying sensitivity, more documents remain missing.
It's important to keep the dots connected. Trump tried to overthrow our government with lies about our 2020 election. He insists that the congressional investigation into that remarkable fact is a political witch hunt. Trump stole and concealed top secret US documents... he's had some in his possession, illegally, for more than 2 years. He took them because he understands that they represented power or influence to/for him. He's currently telling conservatives across the country lies about those documents and the DOJ. Trump is actively destabilizing our republic.
Trump should be arrested for his dangerous crimes just as others have been for less egregious violations. An arrest would restrict his freedoms. Waiting for some vague political timetable for justice is ridiculous. The DOJ is not supposed to be governed by politics. Comey showed us what it looks like when DOJ conservatives don't play politics with justice. [That was sarcasm]
19 hours ago, chare said:Or Sandy Berger.
You are correct. Another renegade from Harvard Law. Justice systems have their own failures and he was one. At least he died as a recognized humanitarian for his work. Trump certainly won't:)
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Just a reminder, it was found, by James Comey of all people, that there was evidence that Hillary did break the law in her management of those emails.