Am I reading this right? The bill is SB 1159, which looks like it passed to me when I look it up on the California legislature website -- with the following language:
No, I'm not -- I was responding to Heron's comments suggesting that racial concerns are behind Republican concerns about illegal immigration, and pointing out that I don't fit her stereotype.
Ah, thanks. Should've read further back in the thread.
I find it sadly desperate that some still try to pretend that the party of Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Mia Love, and Bobby Jindal is just a bunch of mean old white guys who don't like brown people.
Frankly, it's the Democrats trotting out the old white people. Exclusively old white people, so far.
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Actually the American Indian's are immigrants as well their ancestors Crossed the Bearing Straight from Asia. Their is compelling fossil evidence that there was a time when there were no humans on the North or South America
This is my reality. For some people these are (clearly) stereotypes and preconceptions, but this is what I live every single day. I will not ask for forgiveness should I find myself annoyed when people miscategorize and vilify my husband, children, and friends.
Undocumented immigrants provided a surplus of $35.1 billion to the Medicare Trust Fund between 2000 and 2011, according to a new Journal of General Internal Medicine study recently published. The findings challenge concerns that undocumented immigrants are financially burdening the health care system.
According to the study, undocumented immigrants contributed $2.2 and $3.8 billion more than they withdrew annually between 2000 and 2011 to a Medicare program known as the Hospital Insurance Trust fund.
...The report was a collaborative effort from researchers at Harvard Medical School, the Institute for Community Health, and the City University of New York School of Public Health at Hunter College. Researchers took data from 201,398 respondents in 2012 using the Current Population Survey.
...Undocumented immigrants contribute the most to the HITF since they pay taxes with the jobs they have, sometimes on a borrowed or invalid Social Security number. That group also consists of undocumented immigrants shielded from deportation relief under President Obama's 2012 executive action known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, who have valid Social Security numbers and also contribute into Social Security taxes. Meanwhile, they typically don't benefit from the program. The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 imposed restrictions that barred undocumented immigrants from from accessing Medicare benefits. While they can collect on Medicare if they ever legalize, about one-third of undocumented immigrants leave the U.S.
Beyond Medicare, undocumented immigrants incur an estimated $5.5 billion in non-Medicare publicly funded health care expenses annually, but they also contribute to state and local taxes that help to offset those expenses. An Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy study found that undocumented immigrants paid an estimated $10.6 billion in 2010.
Seems to me that undocumented people aren't the only ones getting something they're not entitled to.
And no, I'm still not arguing that breaking our immigration laws is ok or that the laws should be totally repealed. But let's base the discussion on facts, not advertising.
That's not the flaw, the flaw is the catch-22 she gets stuck in that prevents her from gaining citizenship despite doing exactly what should allow her to become a citizen; working hard to become a valuable asset to our society.
We want Physicians, she wants to fill that need but can't get a medical license without being a citizen and can't become a citizen without getting a medical license.
Why is it you think that makes sense? What do you believe she should do differently?
What doesn't make sense to me is that this student who is here illegally was selected for medical school instead of an American Citizen or someone with a student visa.
ILLEGAL ALIENS, (not undocumented immigrants), cost this country BILLIONS!! They in no way contribute more than they take.
They don't belong in this country, let alone, taking jobs from American Citizens. New grads, especially in California, cannot find work, and are having to relocate, sometimes thousands of miles from family to get a job. Why are they allowing them to be granted licenses, and allowed to work??
There is NO justification for allowing these individuals to be granted a license, and be allowed to work. The more we accommodate them, the more they will come.
I live in Florida and I work with MANY CNA's, housekeepers, dietary aides etc. that are hispanic and have over the years. It is fun to be AA and have everyone in the breakroom assume you don't speak spanish. I heard one woman explaining to another how to "live good here". Wife with 3-5 children lists herself as a single mother on EVERYTHING such as lease, taxes etc..She makes $8-$10/hr which puts her at poverty level for medicaid, foodstamps, section 8, free lunch, childcare subsidy, charter school scholarships you name it. She is in fact married and has a husband who works construction, landscaping etc.. under the table and makes decent money. As far as the Gov. is concerned they are a single man and a single mother but are in fact a household getting many benefits. I am not talking one woman in one facility either. It is very common where I live and the person who said you cannot get benefits if you are illegal is wrong. It clearly states on some applications that workers are FORBIDDEN to ask the immmigration status of an applicant and that a SS# is not needed to apply for or receive benefits. Before I found this out I wondered why they drove better cars and had more expensive shoes/uniforms than many nurses.
I ran across this article today. It appears California is issuing licenses to Illegal Aliens with no Social Security Numbers in certain profession.
How is this or will this effect the Nursing Board.
I personally think it a horrible bill, but hey I don't live in Cali.
"Under SB1159, a law signed in September by Gov. Jerry Brown, all 40 licensing boards working under the California Department of Consumer Affairs must consider applicants regardless of their immigration status. Previously, only legal residents with Social Security numbers could be granted licenses."
Wow. Just wow. I'm appalled at some of these responses and the perception of immigrants. They can't be trusted to enter via the front door? WTH? Do you know how hard it is to enter through that front door, especially after 9/11! Sneak in the back and demand resources? Most of the people who enter illegally are grateful to work any jobs below minimum wage, because it's often a vast improvement from where they came. Those who are fluent and educated enough to get through and graduate nursing school have likely been here since they were children, and like pp said, had no choice in the matter.
I think I'm a little more than appalled, closer to disgusted with some of the obvious generalizations and biases shown.
It is very easy to come thru the front door (legally since 9/11), and it is also very easy to come in illegally via land crossing since 9/11.
Illegals working for low wages is just not what I see in Texas. Average guy on the corner earns $12 per hour and is all cash and tax free. CNA don't make that in Texas, About the same pay as a LPN in Texas with no taxes.......
1) In order to take the NCLEX, you still have to get through nursing school, and not everyone is going to do that. US citizen or otherwise.
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2) Considering the fact that even if a person has credentials they aren't likely to get a job in healthcare without a valid SSN or work visa, I'm still going to come down on the side of this not being a large sector of the population and thus not something worth getting worked up about.
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Way too easy to buy a degree especially in country like China
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Ah, thanks. Should've read further back in the thread.
I find it sadly desperate that some still try to pretend that the party of Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Mia Love, and Bobby Jindal is just a bunch of mean old white guys who don't like brown people.
Frankly, it's the Democrats trotting out the old white people. Exclusively old white people, so far.