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I don't know if I am just hard hearted after so many years of nursing, or if I have just seen too many malingerers, or just too many people who blame their problems on anything and everyone but themselves. But if I answered half the posts on here with what I really feel, I think I would be thrown off.
Obviously, some degree of tact is important. However, if people don't want an honest answer, they shouldn't ask. My favourite is when a poster asks for advice and then proceeds to argue with the respondents because he/she doesn't like their answers.I want to say, "So you weren't asking. You've already decided."
I absolutely agree!!!
I recently spent a lot of time responding to this poster about geographical data and the job economy. But she was already certain of what the job opportunities were and the cost of living. Even though her numbers were completely off and obviously although I was a local I didn't know anything.
Silly me for paying 500/month more for my apartment than what she seemed to think she could get a house for. I was certainly over-exaggerating the cost of living. And the jobs are just ripe for the picking in California for a nurse who wants to transition to ICU.
Not saying it isn't possible, but if anyone has that much luck...I want them to buy me a lotto ticket!
I absolutely agree!!!I recently spent a lot of time responding to this poster about geographical data and the job economy. But she was already certain of what the job opportunities were and the cost of living. Even though her numbers were completely off and obviously although I was a local I didn't know anything.
Silly me for paying 500/month more for my apartment than what she seemed to think she could get a house for. I was certainly over-exaggerating the cost of living. And the jobs are just ripe for the picking in California for a nurse who wants to transition to ICU.
Not saying it isn't possible, but if anyone has that much luck...I want them to buy me a lotto ticket!
Dear God, I recently saw some poor idiot who thought they were going to get one of those ICU jobs in California because of the "nursing shortage" that everyone knows we have that was advertised on the internet paying some outrageous amount of money...when I mentioned to make sure they really looked into this and made sure those jobs were real..b/c the oldest trick in the book is to post dummy listings that do not exist..they argued with me...I know full and well what the market is like and I know first hand that there are thousands of dummy listings, but they knew better....uh, ok..good luck....California is just bursting with ICU jobs for new grads with absolutely no experience..especially around the San Francisco area...and it's SO reasonable to live there!:)
Dear God, I recently saw some poor idiot who thought they were going to get one of those ICU jobs in California because of the "nursing shortage" that everyone knows we have that was advertised on the internet paying some outrageous amount of money...when I mentioned to make sure they really looked into this and made sure those jobs were real..b/c the oldest trick in the book is to post dummy listings that do not exist..they argued with me...I know full and well what the market is like and I know first hand that there are thousands of dummy listings, but they knew better....uh, ok..good luck....California is just bursting with ICU jobs for new grads with absolutely no experience..especially around the San Francisco area...and it's SO reasonable to live there!:)
I look at posts like those and remember back to when I was young and knew everything. Now a-days, I think I must have a neuro problem, 'cause I'm a lot older now and don't "know" near what I did back then.
even i, as a new grad shake my head on some posts. and i'm the one who needed to vent about anxiety and a rough start to orientation- now even though i did get a rough start and not so great orientation i'm trying to take the best out of what i did learn from each of my preceptors even though there were only a couple that i felt really "aligned" with. and as for the ones i didn't? i certainly hope my "for pete sake" post didn't come across as "they're eating their young" or anything like that. just differences in personality and learning style. whatever!
a lot of what i would say that would get me in hot water comes from when i was an lpn and precepted students in pediatrics, and when i was in lpn school myself. a lot of what i would say would probably get me thrown in the "intolerant of other cultures" bucket, bound and tied with "coexist" bumperstickers.
one of the things that i will say makes me almost right away disregard a post is when the first sentence is 98% mis-spellings and txt-talk, and sounds like it was written by a very immature 18 year old. "so liek im a new nurse and whaever lolz im want 2 work n labor and dilvery cuz i luv babiez. how do i get a job there? thx!
Anxiety is normal and I wish I had AN when I started out . . .and I now realize I must have been incredibly lucky as the nurses I learned from were never really toxic. I use that word because some of them were so business-like they did border on rude, or I imagined each little frown or sigh must have been at me, right? haha no . . the rough and gruff type usually is not trying to set you up to fail.
It is the manager or preceptor who plays head games or perhaps behaves as sweet as honey to your face and promptly stabs you in the back when you are not looking you really need to keep your eyes open for.
Luckily, those are not all that common. They are poison, though. I wasted lots of time trying to understand what would motivate a person to do that -- or try to fix it by altering my own behavior. Doesn't work. They have problems that they must ultimately own -- and you need to protect yourself from them.
a lot of what i would say would probably get me thrown in the "intolerant of other cultures" bucket, bound and tied with "coexist" bumperstickers.one of the things that i will say makes me almost right away disregard a post is when the first sentence is 98% mis-spellings and txt-talk, and sounds like it was written by a very immature 18 year old. "so liek im a new nurse and whaever lolz im want 2 work n labor and dilvery cuz i luv babiez. how do i get a job there? thx!
me too.
joanna73, BSN, RN
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Obviously, some degree of tact is important. However, if people don't want an honest answer, they shouldn't ask. My favourite is when a poster asks for advice and then proceeds to argue with the respondents because he/she doesn't like their answers.
I want to say, "So you weren't asking. You've already decided."