Getting Flack For Not Getting Covid Vaccine

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I am trying to feel out if anyone else has declined the Covid vaccine and feeling backlash or tension with other co-workers? I have never heard so much discussion regarding nurse receiving or declining a vaccine in the 12 years I've been a nurse. Not sure why it should even matter but, I am getting a lot of pressure about it. I do not see why I am "crazy " if I made the decision against receiving the vaccine. I also do not understand co-workers pushing the vaccine on me and others, or insisting we are out of our minds.  This is coming from management level as well as staff nurses. I am just appalled at the treatment and many of us who have declined the vaccine have kept to ourselves. For me, personally, I made the choice not to get it and I was done at that. It's been a month into our hospital vaccines and people will not just shut up about it. 

Is anyone else experiencing anything like this?

How are you handing this?

Please mind the poor spelling and grammar ?

5 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

Actually no. People in the USA are not trusting because until recently you had an anti science, anti truth leadership.

Not singling out just the US as the UK has a cockwomble of a prime minister who boasted of shaking hands with everyone in hospital whether they were infected or not.

Thank you for using the word "cockwomble".
It brings something special to this conversation.  Although it did cause me to watch a clip from the Wombles with by wife (from Devon),

I might have gone with nobsocket, but I believe cockwomble is more accurate.

 

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4 hours ago, Jeckrn1 said:

It’s not just the past administration. The experts have been in their positions for years and under several administrations. We are not trusting because our political leaders from both sides only care about getting re-elected and say and do which helps them not the country. The media is no help either, if our current President was a Republican instead of a Democrat his cognitive abilities and his recent racist statements would have been on the news every night instead of swept under the rug. The last President is a idiot but he did what he said he was going to do and the career politicians from both sides did not like it. 

I was going to reply to this nonsense but macawake and nursej22 have said it eloquently enough.

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14 hours ago, Tozz said:

Haven't dropped into this forum in years, but one quick anecdote:

According to our Director of Pharmacy (in a largish community hospital), somewhere slightly north of 50% of RNs accepted the vaccine.  I asked about MDs.  He paused, thought, and said, "100%."

 

I suspect that the same would be true for microbiologists, or any other kind of scientist.

If you walk into a room full of people trained in virology, or any science which gives them advanced understanding of the issues, they will have an overwhelming consensus on risk VS benefits.

If you ask the same question in a bowling alley, you will get a very different set of opinions.  

Who to believe? 

This is no different from any of the science based issues that have taken on political prominence.  

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20 minutes ago, hherrn said:

Thank you for using the word "cockwomble".
It brings something special to this conversation.  Although it did cause me to watch a clip from the Wombles with by wife (from Devon),

I might have gone with nobsocket, but I believe cockwomble is more accurate.

 

I would have gone with pillock or a plonker or even a wally? How about a wazzock, can't leave the Geordie out ???

Parents are Brits and I get it all the time! 

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5 hours ago, Jeckrn1 said:

It’s not just the past administration. The experts have been in their positions for years and under several administrations. We are not trusting because our political leaders from both sides only care about getting re-elected and say and do which helps them not the country. The media is no help either, if our current President was a Republican instead of a Democrat his cognitive abilities and his recent racist statements would have been on the news every night instead of swept under the rug. The last President is a idiot but he did what he said he was going to do and the career politicians from both sides did not like it. 

I would enlist common sense and contextualize utilizing your education? You seriously need a politician to tell you what to do about something medical? 

As nurses, do we actually need anyone to help us solve any problems with the training we've received? We not only solve problems procedurally, but on the fly as it arrives. 

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10 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

can't leave the Geordie out

If your parents are Geordies you should let them see this; 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-56071386

They can no longer say "coals to Newcastle." ?

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9 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

If your parents are Geordies you should let them see this; 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-56071386

They can no longer say "coals to Newcastle." ?

No Geordies. Mother is half Irish and half Scottish. Father is half Danish and half Swedish. Both are British, born there. Father in Ascot outside of London and mother in Epsom. 

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8 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Health dept says no. They are clueless as to how this even happened. I asked should I even get the 2nd dose, and they said yes, it may be even worse ?.  At least my fever has finally broke, and after a shower, the muscle aches are subsiding. I hope this is a good sign

Just a little news blip Google turned up, but thought I'd post it anyway. (As per @macawake I believe):

https://www.wzzm13.com/article/life/wellness/healthy-you/covid-surivors-may-have-stronger-side-effects-from-vaccine/69-20e74420-433f-4cd2-bbdc-b4be15b20d23

Feel better soon @Hoosier_RN! ?

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6 minutes ago, JKL33 said:

Just a little news blip Google turned up, but thought I'd post it anyway. (As per @macawake I believe):

https://www.wzzm13.com/article/life/wellness/healthy-you/covid-surivors-may-have-stronger-side-effects-from-vaccine/69-20e74420-433f-4cd2-bbdc-b4be15b20d23

Feel better soon @Hoosier_RN! ?

Thanks for posting that article. I've realized that its most likely what I've experienced, even if ISDH didn't have knowledge to share. I'm already doing much better after Tylenol and rest. My arm isn't sore anymore either. I'm just hoping that the 2nd shot isn't worse. It was just so intense for about 24 hours 

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I had my 2nd Moderna a week ago and both times, just a little discomfort but I would take even greater discomfort than have this infection full blown. I have friends who still haven't recovered their smell or taste after 8 months,friends who are still having ridiculous symptoms with all systems being affected. 

Just saying. 

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8 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

 

Not singling out just the US as the UK has a cockwomble 

Grumpy, what in the name of all of creation is a "cockwomble"? I simply must know so I can fling it out as an insult and completely befuddle the poor fellow I'm insulting! ?

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@GrumpyRN and others. I apologize for letting my emotions get the better of me.  I participated in what I was accusing others of doing. Apology offered.  

I guess I just feel tired and weary from it all. I think that people should really try to be careful in lumping people into a category, though, for not getting vaccinated. Many people would choose to get one of the traditional vaccines but did not want the mrna vaccine. I just think that people's decisions should be respected. There is a greater good for the greatest number idea, but we all have to decide if it is worth the risk.  I was not comfortable being a guinea pig. I wanted to wait. I just get tired of people treating me and others like we are ignorant, or uncaring, or selfish. Maybe, like everyone else in this mess, we are uncertain, overwhelmed, or afraid. Maybe we had experience with vaccine injury. Maybe we didn't initially trust the data. I have heard a hundred reasons. I just know that I respect people's right to choose something based on informed consent. 

And completely off topic, @GrumpyRN, I politely disagree with the comment about school boards/districts and homeschooling! Even if I had no kids at all, I still pay taxes and contribute to the system financially and legally can have a say in what the school district does. I could run for the school board, etc. Just as the case with the Covid vaccine, I declined the initial offer but am still involved with other PPE and infection Control discussions happening within the healthcare facility. 

Respectfully disagreeing and sorry for being too emotionally charged......

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