Getting Flack For Not Getting Covid Vaccine

[EDnurseAmen]

I am trying to feel out if anyone else has declined the Covid vaccine and feeling backlash or tension with other co-workers? I have never heard so much discussion regarding nurse receiving or declining a vaccine in the 12 years I've been a nurse. Not sure why it should even matter but, I am getting a lot of pressure about it. I do not see why I am "crazy " if I made the decision against receiving the vaccine. I also do not understand co-workers pushing the vaccine on me and others, or insisting we are out of our minds.  This is coming from management level as well as staff nurses. I am just appalled at the treatment and many of us who have declined the vaccine have kept to ourselves. For me, personally, I made the choice not to get it and I was done at that. It's been a month into our hospital vaccines and people will not just shut up about it. 

Is anyone else experiencing anything like this?

How are you handing this?

Please mind the poor spelling and grammar ?

[Hoosier_RN, MSN]

16 minutes ago, macawake said:

I’m just thinking out loud here, but isn’t it a possibility that your immune system is reacting so strongly to your first vaccine dose because you’ve had a Covid infection? It kind of is the second ”dose” as far as your body is concerned. 

Hope you feel better soon! 

Health dept says no. They are clueless as to how this even happened. I asked should I even get the 2nd dose, and they said yes, it may be even worse ?.  At least my fever has finally broke, and after a shower, the muscle aches are subsiding. I hope this is a good sign

[TheMoonisMyLantern, ADN, LPN, RN]

1 minute ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Health dept says no. They are clueless as to how this even happened. I asked should I even get the 2nd dose, and they said yes, it may be even worse ?.  At least my fever has finally broke, and after a shower, the muscle aches are subsiding. I hope this is a good sign

Sounds very similar to what my co-workers experienced. Some really got hit hard after the first injection others it was the second. Same with our patients, the more fragile and older residents spiked some pretty high fevers and GI upset, but with Tylenol, hydration, and plenty of rest they recovered quickly.

I hope you feel better!

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

19 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

You ask a question, the part I have bolded, then in the next part shown you answer that question.

I was answering earlier post who stated the vaccine was not experimental. 

[macawake, MSN]

34 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Health dept says no. They are clueless as to how this even happened. I asked should I even get the 2nd dose, and they said yes, it may be even worse ?.  At least my fever has finally broke, and after a shower, the muscle aches are subsiding. I hope this is a good sign

Completely anecdotal... three (out of +100) of my coworkers had a very strong response to the first vaccine dose and they all had antibodies from a previous infection. The rest of us had no or mostly mild symptoms after the first dose, but many had stronger responses with the second dose. But the three with the first dose strong immune response weren’t the only ones with a previous Covid diagnosis, so not everyone with antibodies got a strong reaction. None of all this qualifies as scientific data, I just think it’s a bit interesting. 
 

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https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/12/france-s-health-authority-recommends-single-vaccine-shot-for-people-who-have-had-covid-19
 

Preprint...

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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.29.21250653v1

 

Any way, I’m glad you seem to be feeling a bit better ?

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

16 hours ago, hherrn said:

Not sure why it matters?

It matters because expert consensus, whether you agree or not, is that vaccination is how we get out of this mess.  

I am not weighing in on what you should, or should not, do.  Simply answering the question of why it matters.  

The same experts that said wear a face shield if you can’t wear a mask to stop an airborne virus. These same experts are now saying wear 2 mask. Also remember these experts said only a N95 would work on a virus of this size before Covid. Could these be reasons why people are not trusting of these experts?

[GrumpyRN, NP]

30 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

Could these be reasons why people are not trusting of these experts?

Actually no. People in the USA are not trusting because until recently you had an anti science, anti truth leadership.

Not singling out just the US as the UK has a cockwomble of a prime minister who boasted of shaking hands with everyone in hospital whether they were infected or not.

[GrumpyRN, NP]

38 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:

I was answering earlier post who stated the vaccine was not experimental. 

That was me, and you have still answered your own question.

[DeeAngel]

If you don’t want pushback then do not discuss your vaccine status or thoughts.  When you verbalize things, you make them subject to being up for conversation.  Your experience is what this looks like.

[hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I]

2 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

I got my 1st dose moderna yesterday. I'm sicker than I ever was with actual covid, I had a very mild case. Today, I have a high fever, muscle aches,  dizziness, and a pounding headache. I hope I feel better later today or tomorrow. 

The health dept keeps asking if I'm sure this wasn't my 2nd dose, as it does happen often with that. 

I had very similar symptoms with my first  vacccine and was told to take Tylenol 650mg every 4 hours and Motrin 400mg every 6 hours for twenty four and to drink lots of water and do passive ROM on the affected arm. This helped to clear my symptoms. I did the same for my 2nd vaccine and still got a pounding headach. But the analgesics helped and I felt OK within 24 hours. 

Hppy 

[Jeckrn1, ADN, BSN]

46 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

Actually no. People in the USA are not trusting because until recently you had an anti science, anti truth leadership.

Not singling out just the US as the UK has a cockwomble of a prime minister who boasted of shaking hands with everyone in hospital whether they were infected or not.

It’s not just the past administration. The experts have been in their positions for years and under several administrations. We are not trusting because our political leaders from both sides only care about getting re-elected and say and do which helps them not the country. The media is no help either, if our current President was a Republican instead of a Democrat his cognitive abilities and his recent racist statements would have been on the news every night instead of swept under the rug. The last President is a idiot but he did what he said he was going to do and the career politicians from both sides did not like it. 

[macawake, MSN]

1 hour ago, Jeckrn1 said:

The last President is a idiot but he did what he said he was going to do and the career politicians from both sides did not like it. 

Oh, I don’t think it was only career politicians that he rubbed the wrong way. Besides, some of them made a calculated career move and have spent the past four years oozing unctuous deference.. No matter what their private feelings might have been. As for the rest of humanity I suspect that anyone, left, right or sans political label, who values democracy, decency and decorum and who detests demagoguery, despots, delusions and deception took issue with him...  

Ah, but this is a vaccine thread... 

 

[nursej22, MSN, RN]

3 hours ago, Jeckrn1 said:

The same experts that said wear a face shield if you can’t wear a mask to stop an airborne virus. These same experts are now saying wear 2 mask. Also remember these experts said only a N95 would work on a virus of this size before Covid. Could these be reasons why people are not trusting of these experts?

 Eek!  A shortage of N95 masks led public health experts to ask non-health care personnel  to use non-medical masks? And now there is evidence that dual masking is better at blocking viruses? 

I just hate it when experts base their opinions on actual evidence, and that a novel virus didn't come with clear guidelines from the get-go! (sarcasm)