I am trying to feel out if anyone else has declined the Covid vaccine and feeling backlash or tension with other co-workers? I have never heard so much discussion regarding nurse receiving or declining a vaccine in the 12 years I've been a nurse. Not sure why it should even matter but, I am getting a lot of pressure about it. I do not see why I am "crazy " if I made the decision against receiving the vaccine. I also do not understand co-workers pushing the vaccine on me and others, or insisting we are out of our minds. This is coming from management level as well as staff nurses. I am just appalled at the treatment and many of us who have declined the vaccine have kept to ourselves. For me, personally, I made the choice not to get it and I was done at that. It's been a month into our hospital vaccines and people will not just shut up about it.
My Mom had to wear a special shoe to connect to her metal & leather below-the-knee caliper/brace for dropfoot after she had polio. She was in her 20s. By the time I came along, she wore a thin, plastic boot that slipped inside her shoe.
My Mom had to wear a special shoe to connect to her metal & leather below-the-knee caliper/brace for dropfoot after she had polio. She was in her 20s. By the time I came along, she wore a thin, plastic boot that slipped inside her shoe.
Suspenders in the UK are what women wear (and men) to hold up stockings. Think Tim Curry as Frank-N-Furter in the "Rocky Horror Picture Show." ?
Modern calipers are as you say made of plastic and are much, much lighter. Although I know a man who still uses a metal caliper although it only goes over his knee and you don't see it under his trousers. Modern orthosis/orthotics mean we no longer are aware of the number of people that polio touched, plus they will all be in their late 60's upwards.
It's simple really, yes you have the right to refuse the vaccine BUT....
If you have refused (except for documented medical reasons) then you have NO right to comment/complain or otherwise give your 2 cents worth about what happens in the future. You do not get to complain about lock-downs or mask wearing or anything Covid related.
I grew up in 1950's/1960's and polio was a real worry. Always someone in school wearing calipers. Thanks to mass vaccination this and also smallpox have gone.
Just ask all the veterans who have Gulf War Syndrome and see if they would have liked to refuse all the vaccines they received. As far as having no say about the future what gives anyone the right to say who can or cannot to comment or complain about the future.
When the polio vaccine became mandatory it was no longer a experimental vaccine. So that is comparing apples to oranges.
Just ask all the veterans who have Gulf War Syndrome and see if they would have liked to refuse all the vaccines they received.
What does that have to do with anything? Your statement is out of date and wrong.
"Exposure to pesticides and pills containing pyridostigmine bromide (used as a pretreatment to protect against nerve agent effects) has been found to be associated with the neurological effects seen in Gulf war syndrome. Other causes that have been investigated are sarin, cyclosarin, and emissions from oil well fire, but their relationship to the illness is not as clear."
"The overwhelming evidence from the programme is that the combination of vaccines and tablets that were offered to UK Forces at the time of the 1990/1991 Gulf Conflict would not have had adverse health effects."
As far as having no say about the future what gives anyone the right to say who can or cannot to comment or complain about the future.
The way to combat this virus is to have everyone who can have the vaccine has it, so that those who can't have it have herd protection. I really did not think I would have to explain basic stuff on this site. Everyone is aware of their "rights" but people seem to ignore their responsibilities. If you are part of society then you get vaccinated and protect that society. If you don't then you get no say in how society works on this particular issue.
4 hours ago, Jeckrn1 said:
When the polio vaccine became mandatory it was no longer a experimental vaccine. So that is comparing apples to oranges.
I don't know where you are but here the vaccines are not experimental. They have gone through a whole host of tests and measures and have been passed by the regulators.
I did not get and I'm not planning to get the vaccine. That being said I have not shared this info with my most of my coworkers. Not a lot of people ask but when they do I simply say - I havent gotten it yet. My relatives have gotten the shots and asked for my reason and I tell them I'm just not getting it. Fyi I did get covid a few months ago. I'm thankful to God that I got better. No one should be pushed or feel pressured to take the vaccine. It's should be a personal choice.
What does that have to do with anything? Your statement is out of date and wrong.
"Exposure to pesticides and pills containing pyridostigmine bromide (used as a pretreatment to protect against nerve agent effects) has been found to be associated with the neurological effects seen in Gulf war syndrome. Other causes that have been investigated are sarin, cyclosarin, and emissions from oil well fire, but their relationship to the illness is not as clear."
one was a pill and Covid is a shot but they both are preventative in nature. How long did the US deny that Agent Orange did not cause any issues with Vets
"The overwhelming evidence from the programme is that the combination of vaccines and tablets that were offered to UK Forces at the time of the 1990/1991 Gulf Conflict would not have had adverse health effects."
The way to combat this virus is to have everyone who can have the vaccine has it, so that those who can't have it have herd protection. I really did not think I would have to explain basic stuff on this site. Everyone is aware of their "rights" but people seem to ignore their responsibilities. If you are part of society then you get vaccinated and protect that society. If you don't then you get no say in how society works on this particular issue.
I don't know where you are but here the vaccines are not experimental. They have gone through a whole host of tests and measures and have been passed by the regulators.
Then why are the vaccines still in clinic trails. There has been no long term studies on the Covid vaccines. They do not even know if the vaccines will give short or long term coverage or if 2 is even enough shots, there is now talk that 3 or more rounds of the vaccine might be needed
My work place is split nearly 50/50 on getting the vaccine. I’m not taking it. But co-workers have been courteous and minding their own business about other peoples decisions.
Management is unhappy with the poor vaccine acceptance rate, but ATM haven’t made any threatening gestures, just a lot of propaganda posters everywhere
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On 2/13/2021 at 8:51 AM, GrumpyRN said:
If you have refused (except for documented medical reasons) then you have NO right to comment/complain or otherwise give your 2 cents worth about what happens in the future. You do not get to complain about lock-downs or mask wearing or anything Covid related.
Grumpy, I stand behaind you statement 100%. I have comented in the past that if you are not voting you can't complaine about how the goverment works. Of course we all have freedom of speach here in the US, so yes you can complain but what's the point if you are unable or unwilling to help work on a solution.
The problem as I see it is that there is a lot of misinformation regarding the Covid-19 vaccine as most other vaccines that are basically purveyors of fake and dangerous Fake news. When peole at my work start talking about it from these type of sources I usually will call for a meeting of the flat earth society.
I have comented in the past that if you are not voting you can't complaine about how the goverment works.
Exactly, that is something I say every time we have an election. I don't care who you vote for but I do care that you vote.
48 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:
The proble mas I see it is that there is a lot of misinformation regarding the Covid-19 vaccine as most other vaccines that are basically purveyors of fake and dangerous Fake news.
I watched a documentary on exactly this just last night (BBC). They discussed a film that was doing the rounds on facebook (been pulled now) with lots of people who stated they were medical doctors or nurses or some other kind of expert from all around the world. They were supposedly giving expert opinion on Covid and Covid vaccines - every one against it or calling it a hoax. Of the two British ones - a nurse and a doctor - neither were registered practitioners and in the nurses case she was being actively investigated by the NMC for misleading patients.
The point of the documentary was that the BBC wanted to see if they could change peoples mind with getting proper experts and allowing people to question them. Not surprisingly, when people got the true information, or in some cases simple reassurance to their questions and worries they all agreed to get the vaccine.
Then why are the vaccines still in clinic trails... ...They do not even know if the vaccines will give short or long term coverage or if 2 is even enough shots, there is now talk that 3 or more rounds of the vaccine might be needed
You ask a question, the part I have bolded, then in the next part shown you answer that question.
I am trying to feel out if anyone else has declined the Covid vaccine and feeling backlash or tension with other co-workers? I have never heard so much discussion regarding nurse receiving or declining a vaccine in the 12 years I've been a nurse. Not sure why it should even matter but, I am getting a lot of pressure about it. I do not see why I am "crazy " if I made the decision against receiving the vaccine. I also do not understand co-workers pushing the vaccine on me and others, or insisting we are out of our minds. This is coming from management level as well as staff nurses. I am just appalled at the treatment and many of us who have declined the vaccine have kept to ourselves. For me, personally, I made the choice not to get it and I was done at that. It's been a month into our hospital vaccines and people will not just shut up about it.
Is anyone else experiencing anything like this?
How are you handing this?
Please mind the poor spelling and grammar ?
Not sure why it matters?
It matters because expert consensus, whether you agree or not, is that vaccination is how we get out of this mess.
I am not weighing in on what you should, or should not, do. Simply answering the question of why it matters.
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We would say "suspenders" for your "braces."
My Mom had to wear a special shoe to connect to her metal & leather below-the-knee caliper/brace for dropfoot after she had polio. She was in her 20s. By the time I came along, she wore a thin, plastic boot that slipped inside her shoe.