Apparently per the EEOC's guidelines employers (not just healthcare related) can mandate vaccination of workers. The exception is a "sincerely held religious belief" or a covered disability. Just found out this morning that a chain of for profit LTC/SNF's are rolling out a Covid vaccine mandate for all direct care staff or face indefinite unpaid administrative leave. I am a heavy supporter of vaccination and of the new COVID vaccine and in fact am due to get one in early January. But I am doing so of my own volition. My facility encouraged all workers to sign up for a vaccine and provided information sessions and it's been really effective at getting people to sign up.
Even though I would disagree with someone's choice to not vaccinate, I don't believe they should be mandated at this point.
AR10’s” as in plural? Why would you need multiple battle rifles? Seriously, why? If for home defense, nowhere near as good a choice as a shotgun. If for hunting, I guess they work if you need to fire multiple rounds quickly to bring down your target as opposed to using say a winchester model 70 bolt action.
And correct me if I’m wrong but you used the fbi means of homicide report, I don’t recollect cars being on that list as a tool for homicide. So ahh, whatchu talkin’ ‘bout willis?
AR'15's are a good investment. Some of the one's that I paid $500.00 for a few years ago are worth over 2k today. Ammo that I paid less than 10cents per round is now selling well over a dollar per round. AR15's make a good hunting rifle in a "grid down" SHTF scenario as well. Cars are often used as weapons just look at the police officer killed recently at the capital or the Uber driver who died during a recent carjacking by a couple of teenagers. Most of my "social" group have far more guns/ammo than me as I got a "late start". We love guns and see them as an integral part of a free nation.
Most of my "social" group have far more guns/ammo than me as I got a "late start". We love guns and see them as an integral part of a free nation.
This makes me sad ....I see the unintentional injuries and deaths that surround the gun culture as eroding our future. Yes I am free without them, Do you really think a conquering country is going to use guns to take over the people, economy or world with all the stronger atomic age weapons and biological warfare out there? No it is only gangs that resort to guns.
Is here anyone else here reading this post feeling overwhelmed and swarmed by respondents' manifestoes? What started out as simply questioning how far employers can push mandatory vax, this post has devolved into something quite different.
This post seems now belonging in a different thread of its own, more on civil liberties.
This makes me sad ....I see the unintentional injuries and deaths that surround the gun culture as eroding our future. Yes I am free without them, Do you really think a conquering country is going to use guns to take over the people, economy or world with all the stronger atomic age weapons and biological warfare out there? No it is only gangs that resort to guns.
I believe that only an armed population can reliably resist oppressive governments (even then it is a long shot).
Is here anyone else here reading this post feeling overwhelmed and swarmed by respondents' manifestoes? What started out as simply questioning how far employers can push mandatory vax, this post has devolved into something quite different.
This post seems now belonging in a different thread of its own, more on civil liberties.
JMHO
What! What did I miss? What's this about many toes? ????How did feet come into it?
Is here anyone else here reading this post feeling overwhelmed and swarmed by respondents' manifestoes? What started out as simply questioning how far employers can push mandatory vax, this post has devolved into something quite different.
This post seems now belonging in a different thread of its own, more on civil liberties.
JMHO
Manifesto! Yes, that is the word I've been trying to come up with!
Manifesto! Yes, that is the word I've been trying to come up with!
Well as long as you keep the vaccines voluntary I will keep my "manifestos" to myself. I'm fine with "vaccine encouragement" but probably at least 30% of us (and don't be surprised that once the number of vaccinated people hits 50% of the population that it doesn't move much at all). Many of you may be in for a rude awakening at just how resistant many will be to any sort of compelled vaccination.
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2 hours ago, myoglobin said:
Well as long as you keep the vaccines voluntary I will keep my "manifestos" to myself. I'm fine with "vaccine encouragement" but probably at least 30% of us (and don't be surprised that once the number of vaccinated people hits 50% of the population that it doesn't move much at all). Many of you may be in for a rude awakening at just how resistant many will be to any sort of compelled vaccination.
No, probably most commenting here will not be rudely awakened or surprised that an unfortunately large segment of the population will make personal covid vaccination decisions based upon fears, beliefs and misinformation. You've provided evidence.
No, probably most commenting here will not be rudely awakened or surprised that an unfortunately large segment of the population will make personal covid vaccination decisions based upon fears, beliefs and misinformation. You've provided evidence.
Again there are at least "two America's" and neither side much wants to share laws and approaches with the other side. It's time "split up" because I don't see us ever seeing even half the issues, even half eye to eye. If this were a marriage there would have been so many 911 calls that the police would respond only under duress.
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Hello all! A friendly reminder to stick to the topic of employers requiring the COVID vaccine. There are several clubs in the break room where you can discuss political and other non-nursing topics. Thanks!
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
21 minutes ago, myoglobin said:
Again there are at least "two America's" and neither side much wants to share laws and approaches with the other side. It's time "split up" because I don't see us ever seeing even half the issues, even half eye to eye. If this were a marriage there would have been so many 911 calls that the police would respond only under duress.
I haven't seen any evidence in this thread that you are in any position to speak for anyone beyond yourself. You have no authority or expertise to conclude that neither side wants to share laws, that's simply your hyperbole again. This notion that the USA should be dissolved is dangerous and is not relevant to this thread.
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AR'15's are a good investment. Some of the one's that I paid $500.00 for a few years ago are worth over 2k today. Ammo that I paid less than 10cents per round is now selling well over a dollar per round. AR15's make a good hunting rifle in a "grid down" SHTF scenario as well. Cars are often used as weapons just look at the police officer killed recently at the capital or the Uber driver who died during a recent carjacking by a couple of teenagers. Most of my "social" group have far more guns/ammo than me as I got a "late start". We love guns and see them as an integral part of a free nation.