Why are nurses so angry?

Nurses Relations Nursing Q/A

Reading the forum in the past few months, a common thread I have seen is the anger. It does not seem to matter what the discussion is about or the level of nurses discussing it, anger is a common denominator. All of us have random days of extremes, anger, disillusionment, panic, sadness, and a host of other feelings. But anger sticks out and the need to place this anger on others. We need to vent, but why is anger a constant?

In a recent thread, nurses discuss the dealings with combative pts with drug/etoh  backrounds. So much fault placed on the pt. I am more then understanding of the difficulties in dealing with these people, but do ya think they do it on purpose?

When a professional nurse becomes so immersed in anger, it is time to change your specialty or take a break. We are not a perfect group by no means, but we get paid to deal with the best of the best and worst of the worst. It is not always easy, fun, or safe. We should not be abused or taken advantage of by our clients. We should be protected by our employers. We need to be proactive in getting our needs met and the needs of those in our care met.

When I see such young professionals so angry and disillusioned already, I have to wonder at the future of our profession.

It is not a profession one should enter to get rich, have great hours, vacations or benifits. It is one that is entered to care for others, teach and mentor. We have come such a long, long way in the past few decades, and we have far to go.

So, I guess my question to the population here, is how do we grow as a profession without all the constant anger towards each other, our clients and employers? Or can we?

Christine

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.
While I did not enter nursing for the money, I certainly expect to be paid for all of the services that I render to my patients. To put it to you as bluntly as possible, my lifestyle would suffer hideously if I shed my blood, sweat, and tears at the workplace on a regular basis for free.

In my opinion, there's absolutely nothing wrong with desiring a fair pay rate for all that we do. My body is fatigued and my mind is tiresome after the grueling 16 hour shifts that I work. While caring and compassion should be placed above all else, I'll readily admit that the money needs to be competitive in order for me to continue doing this. Nurses need to stop believing that money is inconsequential.

I like the money, and I get paid well.

and we are almost neighbors

money is important, keeps me on the golf course

i agree with the poster who said this anger is more appropriately, frustration.

and for those who don't understand the hair-pulling reactions to our typical work day, then i want to work where you do.

even better, why don't we just hire technicians that will only focus on clinical mastery (and not give a darn about the pt), and even provide incentives to those who can do the most, in the fastest time?

heck, the compassionate virtue of a nurse, is quickly being replaced by the blatant greed in a competitive market.

no one has time to care anymore.

it's all about doing, not being.

and our spirits are being abused.

so when i read about a sister/brother nurse, who is ready to scream until the cows come home, i say "hallelujah!"

at least i know, there is passion that cries for competent, gentle care in a timely fashion.

as a nurse should be.

the day we stop screaming, is the day our spirits have died.

angry is good.

keep it coming.

something will change.

leslie

Specializes in LTC, office.

As long as I am still venting and complaining; I care. When I stop getting frustrated by what is happening - I need to get out.

I agree.......not much anger on here....just frustration and concern to improve nursing.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
reading the forum in the past few months, a common thread i have seen is the anger. it does not seem to matter what the discussion is about or the level of nurses discussing it,anger is a common denominator. all of us have random days of extremes,anger,disillusionment,panic,sadness,and a host of other feelings. but anger sticks out and the need to place this anger on others.we need to vent,but why is anger a constant?

in a recent thread, nurses discuss the dealings with combative pts with drug/etoh backrounds. so much fault placed on the pt. i am more then understanding of the difficulties in dealing with these people,but do ya think they do it on purpose?

when a professional nurse becomes so immersed in anger, it is time to change your specialty or take a break. we are not a perfect group by no means, but we get paid to deal with the best of the best and worst of the worst. it is not always easy,fun, or safe. we should not be abused or taken advantage of by our clients. we should be protected by our employers. we need to be proactive in getting our needs met and the needs of those in our care met.

when i see such young professionals so angry and disillusioned already, i have to wonder at the future of our profession.

it is not a profession one should enter to get rich, have great hours,vacations or benifits. it is one that is entered to care for others, teach and mentor. we have come such a long,long way in the past few decades, and we have far to go.

so, i guess my question to the population here, is how do we grow as a profession without all the constant anger towards each other, our clients and employers? or can we?

christine

i see frustration and venting, not a bunch of angry, disillusioned or panicked people.

noncompliant, abusive and alcoholic patients are frustrating to deal with and after an 8 or 12 hour shift of dealing with their self-centered, self-involved, abusive and manipulative antics, nurses need a safe place to vent lest they take those feelings back to work in the morning and lambast the idiot who desparately deserves it! (and yes, in many cases, i believe they do behave that way on purpose.)

we should be protected by our employers, but the reality is we aren't. (only employers who are forced to by a strong nursing union are likely to be protective of their nurses. rather than fighting unions because it makes us "less professional" we ought to be embracing them because it makes our employers treat us more professionally. but that's another issue for another thread.) it's safer and more constructive to vent here than it is to march down to the ceo's office and call him a short-sighted, cowardly cretin (even though that may well be a spot-on description).

while you are correct that no one is in the nursing profession to get rich, i have to disagree about the hours, pay and benefits. the hours are flexible and to some folks that's more important than "banker's hours." i'd be miserable trying to work monday through friday 9-5. nursing's hours -- including weekends and holidays -- suit me just fine, thank you. i was single most of my adult life, and i enjoyed being able to work the holidays and have a nice holiday meal at work with my friends. where else can you work 3 12s, take one day off, work 3 more 12s and take a week off to travel? what other profession allows you to take a monthly vacation without dipping into your paid time off? and while the pay isn't princely, i have a nice life. and i have job security!

many of you know that i injured my back last year. i was off work for six months. my benefits are good enough that i never missed a paycheck. they weren't full paychecks, but the mortgage got paid, the car payment was made and i ate. my medical insurance covered the doctor's visits, steroid injections, surgery, prescriptions and hospitalizations. i don't know anyone else with benefits that good! my health insurance isn't as good as the insurance i had 30 years ago, but it sure beats most of my family's! plus i can go out and get another job just like this one with one phone call if i ever get angry enough to leave. with friends home on unemployment until their benefits run out, i feel lucky.

i'm kinda thinking the anger is mostly in the eye of the beholder. i'm sorry you feel that way.

Specializes in A myriad of specialties.
As long as I am still venting and complaining; I care. When I stop getting frustrated by what is happening - I need to get out.

My sentiments exactly! If we're not frustrated, we obviously don't care. I've been accused if being "impatient"---well there is so much to do in only so much time and with the demands we have upon us, so what????? I get frustrated with the lack of proper staff (3 of us for 30 patients), proper equipment, shift wars, told we have to stay over and do another shift (due to call-is) when we wonder how we'll finish the work that is required of our own shift.

Specializes in LTC/SNF, Psychiatric, Pharmaceutical.

Being a helping profession does not preclude personal needs, including money. The way I see it, the rate at which you are paid gives you a good idea of how highly the organization for which you work truly thinks of you. If your pay is stagnating while the pay of everyone else around you - outside the hospital as well as in - then what does that tell you about how highly you are valued?

Most people do not love money, but money is the token that determines what share of the earth's resources you are entitled to, and most of us earn our money through grueling work.

I say, if you just want to help people and don't care about the money, just join the poverty-relief mission in Calcutta founded by Mother Teresa.

Specializes in Community, OB, Nursery.

I get frustrated. I get ill at the way things are done/said by dummies who aren't in the trenches, or who don't know my patients as well as I do, or who can't see that I'm just one human. Believe me, I've been dragged through the mud, written up, backstabbed, yelled at, cursed at, and whatever. Yes, it does frustrate me.

The reason I don't carry around a lot of anger: 1) allnurses.com. Seriously - it is by coming here & spilling my guts with people who know what I mean that I can go back to work and not take it out on my pts or docs or whoever, like Ruby said. 2) I know that I am not defined by what others think of me, good or bad. 3) I can do what I can do, and no more. I am not afraid to say that to management, and very very fortunately, I have a wonderful supe and a wonderful NM who back me up on that. I know that is not the case everywhere, and I'm grateful. 4) I give my patients 100% when I'm there. If I do that, I can go home and sleep easy.

I was just talking with my NM today about how much I really like my job. This was not a butt-kissing conversation, I was talking c her about a current life crisis, and how I don't want to give up this job should circumstances dictate that. I'd love to be there for the next 30 or 40 years if I could. Seriously. My bennies are good, my bills are paid, and I can work weekends only and be home with my son the rest of the week. No, I am not an angry nurse.

There is plenty that makes me angry, but it has less to do with nursing and more to do with humans' treatment of other humans.

Specializes in Operating Room.

IMO, anger is not always a negative thing. It can motivate us to stick up for ourselves and our patients. It can spur us on to take on new oppourtunities. Also, we nurses have all the right in the world to be angry. Administration treats us like children most of the time, and many doctors still view us as bedpan carrying handmaidens(as do many pts and families)Now, with all that said, I still am glad I became a nurse. But, I refuse to put my rose colored glasses on and play Nurse Martyr. That to me is the real danger to our profession. Signed, Angry Newbie:angryfire(otherwise known as WitchyRN)

Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.
Golf is my outlet, Surprise

ROFL Tom - but I'm not surprised!!! :uhoh3:

Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.

I second most of what others say here.

But consider this:

If a nurse is hit by a patient, what happens? Nothing much. Now if a doctor was hit by a patient? The story is different...

And what if someone on the street is assaulted in the same way? Here come the cops and lawyers in tow...

I have read that when ppl get continuously angry they should leave the job. Not sure if I agree with that. I became seriously angry with the way I was treated by my boss, along with the aggression both physical and verbal from patients, to the point where I ended up having panic attacks and developing depression.

My main trigger for my epilepsy is stress and lack of sleep, both of which I experienced. Little surprise then that I had a tonic clonic seizure at work, smashing a window. In fourteen years I had never had a seizure at work, and my epilepsy is very well controlled, I can count probably having 8 seizures in my whole life..

It took me seven months to get back to work due to the psychological effects of what happened to me.

But I did it. Through counselling and SSRI's I am back. I have finished my RN as well.

Nurses have every right to be angry. Our job is different; for many of the reasons listed on this thread.

And that is why 'AllNurses' is so good. The information I have just shared is anonymous, so I am not embarrassed to share it. I feel free to express it. And I feel free to share the positive result as well...

Specializes in Trauma ICU,ER,ACLS/BLS instructor.

Anger is a great thing,it relieves stress(which can kill ya),it promotes change,and if directed correctly,it can change lives. It is how we direct our anger and resolve it that has the most effect on our lives. I love the golf thing and many others useful ideas. Throu this medium we can all express ourselves and learn. Maybe coming away with a new perspective or door in which to enter and change how we have normally deal.

I think the most important things I have learnt is to respect my workmates,colleges,and clients. Know that I have a right to be treated well, be safe,paid fairly,and be respected by my employer and clients. Find ways to safely and adequately vent my frustrations. Learn how to use my anger and turn it into a positive for my life. Find a way to start each work day knowing that I am only human,can only accomplish so much,and when I can not do it anymore, I will move on. Most of all,start taking care of me, cause if I do not, my family and my work world will not work.

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