When you thought it was patients you needed to watch...

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Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.
klone said:
A nurse should never question a physician?? What the holy **** is this ********??

Very very very dangerous thinking, that's what that is.

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Horseshoe said:
Someone who purports to be a nurse wrote the following comments on CBS Denver facebook page:

Nothing like blaming the victim!

I would have expected his family members to be able to write more articulately.

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Just a patient---As a big supporter/fan of nurses it's upsetting to read stuff like this, she was just doing her job protecting the patient, and this guy goes crazy on her, glad she's ok. I hope she gets a nice settlement and he goes to jail. Sadly he will probably get just probation. It's scary he would do that to anyone especially a woman when other people are around him. Stay strong nurses!

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Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
Horseshoe said:
Someone who purports to be a nurse

I think "purports" pretty much sums it up.....

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psu_213 said:
I think "purports" pretty much sums it up.....

I went to the FB post and looked at the comments... She is indeed an RN - Operating Room (different hospital) Scary.

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Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
AnnieOaklyRN said:
I wonder if any substances are involved with this behavior? What a crazy event to have happen, I get we have family and patients that can go a little crazy sometimes, but you would never expect it from staff!

You never know I guess. Sounds like he is just really burnt out and maybe exhausted from lack of sleep?

Annnie

Anesthesia does have a high risk of diversion. However, that, or lack of sleep or burn out is no excuse to do what he did. He attacked a fellow human being. The only time I see that being acceptable is when defending one's own life or limb against an attacker.

offlabel said:
The first thing that should be done in a case like this (after the immediate arrest) is a trip to the ER for a urine tox screen. Way more to this story and odds are, diversion is part of it.

Wouldn't change anything in my mind. Intentionally alter yourself, you're still responsible for the actions that occur under the influence. I can have a glass or 2 of wine, and still be able to grasp the consequences of putting my hands around someone's neck and squeezing.

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If that happens to me, a single upper cut at the jaw bone is the only proper answer.

When all are tired not to eat up someone onboard.

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Specializes in Med-surg, home care.

He is crazy! I guarantee this isn't the first time he "snapped" maybe just the first time it's gone public

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Farawyn said:
Yeah???

Let's see if he would choke out a DOC. Or a male nurse.

Exactly! Hell if he did that too me I'd probably "snap" right back

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Unless he rendered me helpless instantly, the only thing that would be on the menu would be the REAL police or possibly the coroner.

For once he was trying to KILL me and my life was threatened, I'm hopeful that those rescue scissors in my pocket would become useful and I'd leave him sans eyes or jugular. If not the scissors, I'd grab something, anything and use it like I meant to kill him.

I would fight him like my life depended on. He might lose. Something. Maybe eyes. Nose. His life.

I don't fight like a girl. Lucky dude might have had a bad outcome if he had come at me.

That's what this criminal deserves. A bad outcome.

Not a stay in a country club getting "treatment" for his problem.

And why in the hell are doctors coddled?

A nurse tries this crapola they would be crucified on the closest cross. Heck they would cut down the last tree on earth to build a cross to crucify them on. That crazy, criminal nurse would never practice again! Jail them -- yesterday!!!!

Also, just another thought ---

A doctor has drug diversion issues with massive abuse, they get country club treatment and have their licenses back in 30-60 90-180 days and generally no monitoring. Nurses are under the microscope for YEARS!!!! Cause they are doctors and doctors are special!

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What is going on with this madness. So a doctor is not dangerous? Cause they are special. Not common, like nurses. I think we have an answer here. What if crazy dude had decided a patient was the target. That's why I don't buy the "snapped" defense. He was deliberate.

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F this line of questioning whether the nurse had the "right" to inquire over this MD on anything! Holy Mother of Dog? Is this now a defense on attempted MURDER? No, nah, nope!

I'm prickled down to my toes.

We need this Angel.

:angel:

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What will happen:

physician will be found to be diverting and using. He will charged with aggravated assault, be given a suspended sentence, inpatient treatment, community service/probation, supervised release.

The RN will be paid an undisclosed 7 figure out of court settlement.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here.

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Horseshoe said:
ZDoggMD posted his reaction to this on Youtube. I don't think we can link, so just put "When Doctors Attack" into the search function.

His reaction was basically "8,000 people sent me this news article so I guess I have to talk about it. Doctors shouldn't attack nurses. Okay? Now please stop forwarding it to me."

Apparently he didn't want to address it in the first place because he "didn't have anything to add" (which is what he told my friend when she sent it to him). Interesting response, since the guy seems to have an opinion about everything else.

:cautious:

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