What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

MunoRN, RN · Oct 29, 2021

17 hours ago, Beerman said:

It would be nice to have a link to the specific stats you are looking at.

Change in total nonfarm employment by state, over-the-month and over-the-year, seasonally adjusted (BLS.gov)

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

No, the article I posted didn't mention anything about fewer mitigation measures. Neither did I.

Obviously, that is less of a factor now as most places are opened up. But Florida never bottomed out as bad as other places, because of fewer mitigation measures.

It did actually, that was the reason given by DeSantis about why they were creating more jobs than the national average: "We are outpacing the nation in job growth and job opportunities because businesses know that Florida will stand up for them,” said DeSantis in the release. “Despite tremendous national headwinds and economic uncertainty, Florida has reached a level of job growth only seen on four other occasions in the past 30 years. We will continue to work hard to keep Florida open, free and built for opportunity.”

The article also gives DeSantis's statement on refusing vaccination mandates as a reason to explain the job growth.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 29, 2021

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Yes. Florida never bottomed out as far as most other states.

You mentioned how your area was busy when you went out. I was in Clearwater over New Years, and lived in downtown Tampa from March through June. Your area has been hoppin' for awhile.

After the recovery from the Great Recession this area started to boom starting around 2011. St. Petersburg, where I live was very robust enjoying growth and low unemployment when the pandemic first hit. It's good to see that with the recovery from the pandemic recession, we've been able to pick that back up.

What's interesting is that Tampa and St. Pete are both run by progressive Democrats with Tampa's Mayor being an out of the closet lesbian. Both mayors have been outspoken critics of DeSantis. We'll know next week but St. Pete looks to be staying progressive with the election of what could be the first African American mayor. Florida as a whole however is definitely Republican and I don't think that's about to change.

Florida is attractive to business people because of the lower tax rate than say California, Mass. and New York. But also I think he's sort of barking up the wrong tree about condemning companies for being "woke". Generation Z, the 20 somethings in the work force and the up and coming generation is very concerned about working in environments that are "woke". Woke is not a bad thing. DeSantis shouldn't alienate the business word like this and embrace diversity because he may turn off potential businesses that might consider moving here.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/10/29/desantis-blasts-corporate-wokeness-in-talk-with-business-leaders/

This article is where I'm getting the idea I mentioned above about Gen Z if you're able to access the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/28/business/gen-z-workplace-culture.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSFUZCybfQMMmqBCdnr_Azbp5lDrhKzKWUTJLxOlQCJWE51rXaOxje943lXy9deN2DYUOFrZ03_MNeAtkURWpqZ-J38oLKClu8NPpG2ps1syIAL5kqHq7NmSwbe1zyrfg4RzYPTK8WLfNkiF0fHYTqpNvfFCo3HEalOySQqMuhI4Ijbp2DYt6RDwDeCGIo_Ljbh18M9-NZRnfgRIkD6AbAXqA2I7BtM9TNVlaGlnET3tg4W4j6Ng6ONofPqb3LxVIa9MjVibNLijpQBU4yBuqadeW&smid=url-share

guest1163268 · Oct 30, 2021

So the Republican's Halloween movies are

* Rosemary's Anchor Baby ??

* Jews ??

* Night of the Living Wage ???

* Heather has two Mommies ✌️???

* House of Vax ????

* Husband of Chuckie ????

according to Bill Maher!

guest1163268 · Oct 30, 2021

19 hours ago, Beerman said:

No, the article I posted didn't mention anything about fewer mitigation measures. Neither did I.

Obviously, that is less of a factor now as most places are opened up. But Florida never bottomed out as bad as other places, because of fewer mitigation measures.

Florida had over 60,000 people die from Covid and in a Schizophrenic republican way, DeSantis is now claiming that cases which are dropping because of the vaccine, which his administration distributed, but he railed against, to the point of wanting to prosecute companies personally if anyone got ill after vaccination, after he was the most antivaxxer and antimasker governor around!

Let's see what those mitigation methods look like against, how many people died or was seriously sickened when they couldn't get help because of overflowing ERs and long term effects?

I honestly don't know how republicans are capable of looking at other people in the eyes except themselves, as if we have the same selective memory as they do? I guess they think that we are all LIARS AND CONMEN, just like them?

toomuchbaloney · Oct 30, 2021

University of Florida bars faculty members from testifying in voting rights lawsuit against DeSantis administration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/30/florida-voting-rights-desantis-lawsuit/

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The University of Florida barred three faculty members from testifying for plaintiffs in a lawsuit challenging a voting-restrictions law enthusiastically embraced by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), which activists say makes it harder for racial minorities to vote. The school’s move raises sharp concerns about academic freedom and free speech in the state.
The public university said the three faculty members — political scientists Daniel A. Smith, Michael McDonald and Sharon Wright Austin — could present “a conflict of interest to the executive branch” and harm the school’s interests by testifying against the law signed by DeSantis in May.

Well, that's interesting.

guest1163268 · Oct 30, 2021

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

University of Florida bars faculty members from testifying in voting rights lawsuit against DeSantis administration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/30/florida-voting-rights-desantis-lawsuit/

Well, that's interesting.

You have to wonder to what depths will republicans sink to, re hypocrisy and that they love to talk about 'Free Speech', and here they are, restricting free speech!

I mean it's one way of sifting out liberals? Only have right leaning students!

Tweety, BSN, RN · Oct 30, 2021

I know several people on academia and they take their freedom of speech both on their classroom, publishing and otherwise seriously.

Florida's covid situation is interesting. We do have the lowest rate per capita right now We got here without mask mandates, vacinne mandates or any other restrictions.

The other side of the story is we got here by very recently having the highest rate if infection in the county, with hospitals nearly running out of critical care beds and much stress and suffering.

But we're good now. DeSantis can brag.

toomuchbaloney · Oct 30, 2021

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

But we're good now. DeSantis can brag.

Overall Florida is 7th in deaths per capita. It's weird to me that bragging rights are associated with Florida's political and public health approach to pandemic mitigation. Did you notice that the state's public health covid page doesn't mention masking as a mitigation strategy?

nursej22, MSN, RN · Oct 30, 2021

16 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Overall Florida is 7th in deaths per capita. It's weird to me that bragging rights are associated with Florida's political and public health approach to pandemic mitigation. Did you notice that the state's public health covid page doesn't mention masking as a mitigation strategy?

This is similar to my thoughts. How many lives were sacrificed to save Florida's economy?

chare · Oct 30, 2021

4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

University of Florida bars faculty members from testifying in voting rights lawsuit against DeSantis administration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/30/florida-voting-rights-desantis-lawsuit/

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I was unable to access your article as it is behind a paywall. However, rather than being prevented to testify, as you suggest, it appears that they are being prevented from taking consultant positions as experts for the plaintiff.

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The university notified the professors - Dan Smith, Michael McDonald and Sharon Austin - that they could not serve as experts on behalf of plaintiffs as part of their "outside activities," the lawyers stated.

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"It is important to note that the university did not deny the First Amendment rights or academic freedom," Fernandez continued. "Rather, the university denied requests of these full-time employees to undertake outside paid work that is adverse to the university's interests as a state of Florida institution."

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University of Florida bars three professors from testifying in lawsuit over elections bill

guest1163268 · Oct 30, 2021

3 hours ago, Tweety said:

I know several people on academia and they take their freedom of speech both on their classroom, publishing and otherwise seriously.

Florida's covid situation is interesting. We do have the lowest rate per capita right now We got here without mask mandates, vacinne mandates or any other restrictions.

The other side of the story is we got here by very recently having the highest rate if infection in the county, with hospitals nearly running out of critical care beds and much stress and suffering.

But we're good now. DeSantis can brag.

I think you might rethink that statement at some point.

The huge amount of elderly people despite vaccination and the other demographics of republicans in that state, literally guarantees a fiasco of some kind.

I can't think of any republican leaning state or republican demographic that doesn't stumble from one disaster to another, frequently!

subee, MSN, CRNA · Oct 30, 2021

1 hour ago, chare said:

I was unable to access your article as it is behind a paywall. However, rather than being prevented to testify, as you suggest, it appears that they are being prevented from taking consultant positions as experts for the plaintiff.

University of Florida bars three professors from testifying in lawsuit over elections bill

This will be an interesting case. It seems to me that these professors are commenting on election law and I fail to see why their testimony would injure the university in any way except if DeSantis behaves spitefully by defunding.