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6 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I think that was from 2005.

Right, I did post the incorrect article.  That one showed up in my search.  Below is current.  Sorry. 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/27/ron-desantis/fact-checking-ron-desantis-job-growth-florida/

But you're right other states that had longer lockdowns seemed to be fairing well now.  

 

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42 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Yes, that's what I was referring to.

The data comes from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.  Florida is definitely above average over the past year for job growth, it still lagged behind Washington, California, and Massachussettes.

The article you posted claimed that Florida had good job growth because of fewer mitigation measures.  But I'm sure just by accident didn't mention that there were states with more compliance with mitigation measures that had even larger growth.

It would be nice to have a link to the specific stats you are looking at.

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7 minutes ago, Beerman said:

It would be nice to have a link to the specific stats you are looking at.

https://www.BLS.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

 

Here's one list.  I would think that since Florida ended locked down very early and more people went back to work starting in 2020 and other states sent people back to work later, if you look at just the last year it might be skewed towards those states that started with a higher unemployment rate, if that makes sense.  Just talking, as I can't back that up.

But I get Muno's point.  You can't look at one number from the last month and claim it's because of lack of covid mitigation because it's only a one month statistic.  

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9 minutes ago, Beerman said:

It would be nice to have a link to the specific stats you are looking at.

He told you where to find the information. 

https://www.BLS.gov/opub/ted/2021/mobile/employment-up-over-the-year-in-47-states-and-district-of-columbia-September-2021.htm

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2 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

He told you where to find the information. 

https://www.BLS.gov/opub/ted/2021/mobile/employment-up-over-the-year-in-47-states-and-district-of-columbia-September-2021.htm

Thank you.  I didn't find that on my search and it would have been nice to have that posted by Muno but that's my issue.  I do it too.

 

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2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Thank you.  I didn't find that on my search and it would have been nice to have that posted by Muno but that's my issue.  I do it too.

We all do it.  Sometimes it's just not practical when on the app to go find the thing that you read earlier when it's easier to just say where to find the publicly available information. 

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But the above link can be flawed.  If you look at California's unemployment rate in September 2020 it was 7.5% and Florida's was 5.6% so it might look like California fared better the last year in number of jobs added.  

If you look at unemployment rates in September 2021 Californias was again 7.5% and Florida's was 4.9%

 

3 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

We all do it.  Sometimes it's just not practical when on the app to go find the thing that you read earlier when it's easier to just say where to find the publicly available information. 

It get it.  I just posted some stats above and didn't link.  LOL

https://bgr.com/politics/gavin-newsoms-california-seeing-record-jobless-claims-as-exodus-continues/

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2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

But the above link can be flawed.  If you look at California's unemployment rate in September 2020 it was 7.5% and Florida's was 5.6% so it might look like California fared better.  

If you look at unemployment rates in September 2021 Californias was again 7.5% and Florida's was 4.9%

 

Yep. Analysis is a bugger, isn't it? Propagandists love to cherry pick and extrapolate. 

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Manchin’s concerns about a rising sense of entitlement are hypocritical, and he’d have a better chance of selling his vision for America if his state was in better shape. 

West Virginia has one of the highest poverty rates in the country, its most populous county is facing a horrifying HIV outbreak and its infrastructure continues to be battered by the climate crisis. To Manchin, constituents who expect sweeping government fixes to these maladies are asking for too much.

It’s ironic, since Manchin and his family have deep financial ties to the coal industry in West Virginia, a dying industry that’s heavily subsidized by the federal government. He has at least $1 million in holdings in his son's coal brokerage firm, and he’s raised more than $400,000 from oil and gas lobbyists over the last few months alone. 

The Manchin family enjoys a lavish lifestyle thanks to industries propped up by the nation’s taxpayers, yet he lectures Americans about the value of hard work. They’re enjoying the fruits of corporate welfare programs — and Manchin certainly feels entitled to those programs given how hard he’s fighting for them over climate-conscious alternatives — but he apparently believes that sense of entitlement should be his alone. 

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/joe-manchins-complaints-entitlement-are-completely-hypocritical-rcna3995

 

I don't think Manchin alone benefits from "entitlements".  A good deal of states and Senators do.  It's always been a bit frustrating that when they talk about ending the "entitlement" mentality they don't think of themselves and favoritism shown the rich and the wealthy.  

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13 hours ago, Tweety said:

https://www.BLS.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

 

Here's one list.  I would think that since Florida ended locked down very early and more people went back to work starting in 2020 and other states sent people back to work later, if you look at just the last year it might be skewed towards those states that started with a higher unemployment rate, if that makes sense.  Just talking, as I can't back that up.

But I get Muno's point.  You can't look at one number from the last month and claim it's because of lack of covid mitigation because it's only a one month statistic.  

Your common sense is showing.  This is why Tucker Carlson doesn't deserve you as a viewer:)

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17 hours ago, MunoRN said:

The article you posted claimed that Florida had good job growth because of fewer mitigation measures.  But I'm sure just by accident didn't mention that there were states with more compliance with mitigation measures that had even larger growth.

No, the article I posted didn't mention anything about fewer mitigation measures.  Neither did I.

Obviously, that is less of a factor now as most places are opened up.  But Florida never bottomed out as bad as other places, because of fewer mitigation measures.

 

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16 hours ago, Tweety said:

But the above link can be flawed.  If you look at California's unemployment rate in September 2020 it was 7.5% and Florida's was 5.6% so it might look like California fared better the last year in number of jobs added.  

If you look at unemployment rates in September 2021 Californias was again 7.5% and Florida's was 4.9%

 

It get it.  I just posted some stats above and didn't link.  LOL

https://bgr.com/politics/gavin-newsoms-california-seeing-record-jobless-claims-as-exodus-continues/

Yes.  Florida never bottomed out as far as most other states.

You mentioned how your area was busy when you went out.  I was in Clearwater over New Years, and lived in downtown Tampa from March through June.  Your area has been hoppin' for awhile. 

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