What to do about DNP and flu shot?

[Travelingon]

I am finishing my MSN soon, and had thought that I would get my DNP. However, I am second guessing this after a big ordeal from my school about me not taking a flu shot. My hospital does not require it if I wear a mask. I hate to put the time and money into getting a DNP, and at some point be required to take a flu shot to work in nursing. I WILL NOT. I will change careers. I’m not looking for pro flu shot comments here. However, I am looking for advice and useful information on what you think the future holds in this matter. I also have an MBA, and can just as easily go into a DBA program.

[Lorri Cook, ADN, RN]

The cells are cultured in the laboratory, don't contain any original tissue and very little DNA.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

15 minutes ago, Banana nut said:

I honestly don't get it because they use derivatives of aborted baby fetuses to culture the vaccine. Look up Dr. Stanley Plotkins deposition last year.

Do you ever research yourself or just regurgitate anti-vax propaganda? Flu vaccines have zero to do with “aborted fetuses”. So want to drop by for your shot?

[Megan1977, MSN, EdD, RN]

On 2/16/2020 at 10:39 PM, Banana nut said:

I honestly don't get it because they use derivatives of aborted baby fetuses to culture the vaccine. Look up Dr. Stanley Plotkins deposition last year.

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

Just now, BostonFNP said:

Do you ever research yourself or just regurgitate anti-van propaganda? Flu vaccines have zero to do with “aborted fetuses”. So want to drop by for your shot?

I continue to do a lot of research. The cdc it self talks about the benefits of "cell grown vaccines" where do they get those cells? Aborted baby fetuses. Look up MRC5 cells, WI38 human diploid lung fibroblasts, there is a lot more.

[Tegridy]

On 2/16/2020 at 11:04 PM, Banana nut said:

I continue to do a lot of research. The cdc it self talks about the benefits of "cell grown vaccines" where do they get those cells? Aborted baby fetuses. Look up MRC5 cells, WI38 human diploid lung fibroblasts, there is a lot more.

Anything we get research wise is tissue from those already deceased. We aren’t killing for tissue in any type of research. Not humans anyway

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

21 minutes ago, Lorri Cook said:

The cells are cultured in the laboratory, don't contain any original tissue and very little DNA.

I will not allow aborted baby fetus DNA to be injected into me year after year.

[Tenebrae, BSN, RN]

On 2/16/2020 at 11:07 PM, Banana nut said:

I will not allow aborted baby fetus DNA to be injected into me year after year.

Source for this please?

That is, something that proves aborted baby foetus DNA is present in vaccines

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

On 2/16/2020 at 11:09 PM, Tenebrae said:

Source for this please?

That is, something that proves aborted baby foetus DNA is present in vaccines

Dr. Stanley Plotkin the "father of vaccines" in a very recent deposition was very supportive and fully advocated for his research and use of fetal tissue from aborted children in the development and production of all the vaccines we currently have on the market. This is not even something up for debate...

[Orion81RN]

On 2/16/2020 at 11:07 PM, Banana nut said:

I will not allow aborted baby fetus DNA to be injected into me year after year.

You are showing a very clear lack of even a basic understanding of how the vaccines are made. I can only conclude that you are in fact simply regurgitating what you have heard, not researched yourself. Because that's not how it works ?‍♀️

Edited to say, that I take that back. Either you are regurgitating nonsense, or you have actually read the science but you are misunderstanding it.

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

On 2/16/2020 at 11:15 PM, Orion81RN said:

You are showing a very clear lack of even a basic understanding of how the vaccines are made. I can only conclude that you are in fact simply regurgitating what you have heard, not researched yourself. Because that's not how it works ?‍♀️

Edited to say, that I take that back. Either you are regurgitating nonsense, or you have actually read the science but you are misunderstanding it.

Ive read a lot of material and ive listened to many hours of the doctors testimony under oath that developed them and im not misunderstanding anything actually.

[Orion81RN]

35 minutes ago, Banana nut said:

Ive read the a lot of material and ive listened to hours of doctors testimony under oath that developed them and im not misunderstanding anything actually.

1) Fetal tissue is not in vaccines. The virus is GROWN IN the cells.

2) The viruses aren't even grown in the original cells. They have divided, (third generation) and THOSE are the cells used.

3) None of this is even how the FLU vaccine is made.

4) So you're holier than the pope apparently. I'm curious. If your child needed a heart transplant, would you not accept the heart of a murdered victim? Where do you draw the line? How about human composting? Lets say aborted fetuses were used. Would you refuse to use ANYTHING good that could grow from it?

5) lastly....so you are ok with millions of people dying...literally millions, teeny tiny cute babies included...(including the unborn) bc the vaccines that prevent these deaths were grown in aborted fetal cells...3 times removed at that.That is absurd, and even the dang Catholic church agrees on THAT one.

[Banana nut, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

3 hours ago, Orion81RN said:

1) Fetal tissue is not in vaccines. The virus is GROWN IN the cells.

2) The viruses aren't even grown in the original cells. They have divided, (third generation) and THOSE are the cells used.

3) None of this is even how the FLU vaccine is made.

4) So you're holier than the pope apparently. I'm curious. If your child needed a heart transplant, would you not accept the heart of a murdered victim? Where do you draw the line? How about human composting? Lets say aborted fetuses were used. Would you refuse to use ANYTHING good that could grow from it?

5) lastly....so you are ok with millions of people dying...literally millions, teeny tiny cute babies included...(including the unborn) bc the vaccines that prevent these deaths were grown in aborted fetal cells...3 times removed at that.That is absurd, and even the dang Catholic church agrees on THAT one.

These are great points and i have answers for them but i don't think explaining myself really changes anything for anyone. Thank you