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VP Mike Pence visiting Mayo Clinic - Not Wearing a Mask

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Nurse SMS, MSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development. Has 10 years experience.

There seems to be a very large sect of society that feels they are above what is happening. Many of them have fallen ill. Some of them have died.

The President said that he probably wouldn't wear a mask, that may have influenced the VP's choice.

Nurse SMS, MSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development. Has 10 years experience.

Just now, A Hit With The Ladies said:

I agree! Fauci and Birx don't mask. They don't stand six feet away from Trump or themselves at the podium. Bunch of hypocrites!

None of them are masked, at the podium, around the podium. Trump, Pence, Fauci, Birx, flavor-of-the-week. Leading by example has never been this administration's strong suit.

A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psych. Has 5 years experience.

Which is exactly why I don't care much for their sanctimonious attitudes. The Surgeon General was saying a month ago we didn't need to wear masks. Apparently they just lied to the general public to prevent a PPE shortage for healthcare workers. We all know how well that worked out!

herring_RN, ASN, BSN

Specializes in Critical care, tele, Medical-Surgical. Has 49 years experience.

21 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Which is exactly why I don't care much for their sanctimonious attitudes. The Surgeon General was saying a month ago we didn't need to wear masks. Apparently they just lied to the general public to prevent a PPE shortage for healthcare workers. We all know how well that worked out!

We were told that wearing a cloth or surgical face mask would not protect the wearer from infection with COVID-19 BEFORE it was discovered that asymptomatic people, who don't even know it, can spread the virus to others by coughing, sneezing, singing, and even talking. (One probable example: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak )

When I go to the store or pharmacy I wear a cloth mask and am glad those businesses make employees and customers wear one too. That way if I am infected unknown to myself it is extremely unlikely I will transmit it to a fellow shopper. AND it is just as unlikely that it will be transmitted to me by a neighbor wearing a mask.

Walking a dog or doing run/walk exercise I follow our Counties Public Health advice and do not wear a mask unless someone comes near. Sometimes that happens at a corner waiting for a "WALK" signal.

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Rational use of face masks in the COVID-19 pandemic March 20, 2020.

... The US Surgeon General advised against buying masks for use by healthy people. One important reason to discourage widespread use of face masks is to preserve limited supplies for professional use in health-care settings. Universal face mask use in the community has also been discouraged with the argument that face masks provide no effective protection against coronavirus infection... ... As evidence suggests COVID-19 could be transmitted before symptom onset, community transmission might be reduced if everyone including people who have been infected but are asymptomatic and contagious, wear face masks...
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600(20)30134-X

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Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings, Especially in Areas of Significant Community-Based Transmission

... We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms. This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity—for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing—even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms. In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html

Rogue1

Specializes in Pediatrics. Has 5 years experience.

The Mayo Clinic should have cancelled the tour and photo ops if he refused to wear one. They should have followed their own policy and protected their patients--the people they are accountable to. And Pence should have shown some modicum of intelligence and respect and worn a mask because the experts (his hosts) were telling him it was policy.

Could It be that there is a vaccine and they had it.

Emergent, RN

Specializes in ER. Has 28 years experience.

Masks are symbolic in my opinion. I will use them ( once I'm off this self quarantine) in order to make other people feel at ease, and do the socially acceptable thing in this crisis.

He's probably making a political statement. I think the administration is more in the line of, let nature take its course, and keep the economy rolling.

That is another perspective. This isn't the bubonic plague. It's more serious and the flu, but way way way less serious than Ebola.

NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion. Has 44 years experience.

Per news reports, VP Pences explanation at press conference post visit:

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As Vice President of the United States I'm tested for the coronavirus on a regular basis, and everyone who is around me is tested for the coronavirus. He added, "And since I don't have the coronavirus, I thought it'd be a good opportunity for me to be here, to be able to speak to these researchers, these incredible health care personnel, and look them in the eye and say thank you."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/28/coronavirus-mike-pence-tours-mayo-clinic-without-mask.html

PSSS VP Pence: Masks do not cover the eyes. 😉

Thought it was funny. Apparently not.

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Regardless of WHO, CDC, Brix, Fauci, etc.. not wearing a mask in this situation is both a poor choice, and a poor example. It represents a failure of leadership as well negligence on the part of Mayo Clinic.

On a personal basis, I highly doubt that Pence's physician has advised him to skip the mask in these situations. And, he is a role model. Politics aside it is a really bad idea for somebody to go into a hospital without a mask. And since he is a role model, he can choose what message he gives to the public.

"https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-requiring-all-patients-visitors-to-wear-masks/"

"Patients and visitors are asked to bring their own face covering or mask to wear. If a patient or visitor does not have a mask, Mayo Clinic will provide one. Unless the visitor is the Vice President, in which case we will provide the opportunity for a photo op in order to demonstrate that using masks is not important."

Emergent, RN

Specializes in ER. Has 28 years experience.

Did anyone ask him about it? I saw the headline on a news site, but I guess it wasn't interesting enough for me to read article.

It seems disrespectful of him to not wear a mask, even if he is ideologically in disagreement with the policy. Sometimes we have to do things in order to make other people feel comfortable, or be respectful of their wishes.

Nurse SMS, MSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development. Has 10 years experience.

21 minutes ago, Emergent said:

Did anyone ask him about it? I saw the headline on a news site, but I guess it wasn't interesting enough for me to read article.

It seems disrespectful of him to not wear a mask, even if he is ideologically in disagreement with the policy. Sometimes we have to do things in order to make other people feel comfortable, or be respectful of their wishes.

He was asked about it and released an official statement that he wanted to be able to look people "in the eyes" and that since he and everyone around him are regularly tested he poses no risk.

On an editorial note, I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at this nonsense.

Emergent, RN

Specializes in ER. Has 28 years experience.

14 minutes ago, Nurse SMS said:

He was asked about it and released an official statement that he wanted to be able to look people "in the eyes" and that since he and everyone around him are regularly tested he poses no risk.

On an editorial note, I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at this nonsense.

So, special people like him get tested regularly. Health care workers do not.

tnbutterfly - Mary, BSN, RN

Specializes in Peds, Med-Surg, Disaster Nsg, Parish Nsg.

After being criticized for not wearing a mask while visiting patients at the Mayo Clinic earlier this week, Vice President Pence decided to wear a mask in public today while touring the GM plant in Indiana.

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I recently left a job specifically because our “mandatory” mask policy for everyone (patients and staff) became “optional” if the patient didn’t want to wear a mask.

I felt that allowing one grumpy patient to risk the health of 15-20+ immunocompromised patients (and staff) in the same room was outside the boundaries of my interpretation of my state’s nurse practice act. A few weeks later, our governor made an executive order requiring masks in all enclosed public accommodations - which I believe is the least one can do to protect those who are forced to continue working during a pandemic.

Mr Pence is lucky I wasn’t the nurse on duty during his visit, as I would not have allowed him on the floor, period. Infection control during a pandemic isn’t negotiable.